[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

Hi all,

sorry for stepping in here so late, especially as this topic has been 
discussed over and over again in OOo UX (Renaissance) and here
in LibreOffice too.

Irrelevant of the fact that some people understand the word "ribbon"
as a red flag they start to rant against, we neither copy any competitor's
design decisions without really good reasons nor we drop support to 
our present users  just because we want to establish something "new"
and "cool".

I'm quite sure that we'll be able to combine a static menu structure with 
a context sensitive one and provide this to the user in an easy-to-use
and eye-pleasing way. And this structure will be at least as configurable 
as the present UI.

You all are right that this needs thorough development and research - 
it's one of our most important tasks for the next months and years.

But please stop discussing the word "ribbon" and what MS created 
by using this word - this keeps us away from real work on LibreOffice
design.

Create a wiki page containing our UI goals - for all of our target groups.

Start defining the context sensitive areas and find out how they can be 
accessed via static menus without double effort.

Have a look what Renaissance already did on OOo - and use these
results as basis for your own work.

We have many areas where our presence is really important - this topic
is one of them.

But we should avoid to discuss details like graphical approach, menu 
positioning and so on: The first thing to do is defining the functionality - form
will follow function when we really know how it should work...

Best regards

Bernhard

PS: And please keep in mind, that we need to convince our developers to work
in this area - otherwise none of our ideas will come true...




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