Re: [libreoffice-design] 'adopt-o-meter' for the download page

On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 11:25 +1200, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> On 2011-05-19 11:02, Phil Jackson wrote:
> > Hi Bernhard
> >
> > It's good to see similar ideas in operation/development with OOo4kids.
> >
> > Being a programmer myself, I know it shouldn't be too difficult to
> > build menus and tool bars that have an additional User-Ranking tag.
> > When Toolbars and menus are displayed, it should also not be too
> > difficult to supress ones that don't fit the ranking. To future-proof
> > this system, the ranking must be flexible enough to allow for
> > extending it to more ranks without affecting current users' settings.
> > For example there could be a 2-3 character code where the first
> > character is the major level and subsequent characters the lower levels.
> >
> > With templates though, this will be a challenge. I agree with the
> > author of the second link that sometimes the software goes too far in
> > the decisions it makes. Any user who has tried to put multiple
> > pictures on a page and then started moving them around would have
> > experienced this happening.
> >
> > Templates are perfect for repetitive tasks such as doing meeting
> > agendas where the structure stays the same each time, but the detail
> > changes. I personally think that when entering details into templates,
> > the number of operations needs to be restricted to actions like;
> > Copy a sub-section of the template i.e. an additional item is needed
> > for a list
> > Delete a sub-section of the template i.e. not needed
> >
> > For those interested in templates, it would perhaps be useful to
> > consider the different uses for templates and identify some
> > commonalities between them. It's almost like an application which is
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> > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Adapt-o-meter.png
> > > A big +1!!!
> Hi. There are a number of applications that turn "Advanced" menus on or
> off. I think this needs to be carefully managed so a potential user
> doesn't install LO and then think it can't do a fraction of what MO does
> because he doesn't realise he is in basic mode or that there is an
> advanced mode. When I look through the menus of Writer almost everything
> I see is a basic necessity so it is hard to see what would be dropped.
> The status needs to be clearly visible in the panel or frame and also
> how to change the functionality so that users do not feel LO has limited
> ability.
> May be in the bottom of the frame next to the slider for zoom there is a
> slider for Menus, Simple<->Advanced. But then how is this reflected in
> the buttons available on the panels and what is the implication on
> graphical programming.
> steve

In Office 2010 MS removed some functionality from the ribbon. To use the
hidden functionality you have customize Office, an advanced user trick.
The functionality is not very accessible.

If we go with two or three levels of functionality we should make it
easy and obvious for the user to change the levels while using and as
the default setting.
-- 
Jay Lozier
jslozier@gmail.com


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