Re: [libreoffice-design] 'adopt-o-meter' for the download page

Hi Bernhard

It's good to see similar ideas in operation/development with OOo4kids.

Being a programmer myself, I know it shouldn't be too difficult to build 
menus and tool bars that have an additional User-Ranking tag. When 
Toolbars and menus are displayed, it should also not be too difficult to 
supress ones that don't fit the ranking. To future-proof this system, 
the ranking must be flexible enough to allow for extending it to more 
ranks without affecting current users' settings. For example there could 
be a 2-3 character code where the first character is the major level and 
subsequent characters the lower levels.

With templates though, this will be a challenge. I agree with the author 
of the second link that sometimes the software goes too far in the 
decisions it makes. Any user who has tried to put multiple pictures on a 
page and then started moving them around would have experienced this 
happening.

Templates are perfect for repetitive tasks such as doing meeting agendas 
where the structure stays the same each time, but the detail changes. I 
personally think that when entering details into templates, the number 
of operations needs to be restricted to actions like;
Copy a sub-section of the template i.e. an additional item is needed for 
a list
Delete a sub-section of the template i.e. not needed

For those interested in templates, it would perhaps be useful to 
consider the different uses for templates and identify some 
commonalities between them. It's almost like an application which is 
allowing for pre-formatted input.

Cheers

Phil Jackson




On 5/19/2011 10:04 AM, RGB ES wrote:
> 2011/5/18 Phil Jackson<sapient@clear.net.nz>:
> > Hi Kendy
> >
> > This type of idea could be extended to apply to the installation process.
> >
> > i.e.
> > Power Users - want all options turned on and showing
> > Professional Users - most options turned on and showing
> > Moderate Users - reduced set of options turned on and showing
> > Basic User - minimum set to be functional, hide all others.
> >
> > This could apply to Writer and Calc so that a user could indicate Power user
> > for Writer but Moderate for Calc.
> >
> > This would require that all toolbars have a ranking as well as all pull-down
> > menu options and icons. e.g. 4 = Power User, 3=Professional User
> >
> > If a person indicates 3 then only 4's are hidden, if they indicate 2 then
> > 3's and 4's are hidden. A user can in time change their ranking to see what
> > is available.
> >
> > I've added this suggestion to Design/WhitePaper/InterfaceImprovements which
> > can be accessed from Design/Whiteboards in the Document Foundation.
> This is what OOo4kids is trying: http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
> But I'm not sure... mainly because a user that starts on the lowest
> level most probably will not change. There is no easy answer for the
> problem "basic vs. advanced users" unless you build two completely
> different apps... or redesign the use of templates:
> https://sites.google.com/site/rgbmldcwriterideas/home/wizard-trap
>
>
> Bernhard Dippold
> > My idea goes the other way round: People interested in downloading should
> > not be handled as part of a certain group (early adopters, home users, corporate users),
> > but everybody should find his/her own position in the graphic and pick the version next to this 
> > position.
> >
> >
> > >     Anybody here who would be willing to design such a thing? ;-)
> >
> > It's not at all a final design - not even a mockup.
> >
> > It's just a visual brainstorming:
> >
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Adapt-o-meter.png
> A big +1!!!


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