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Hi Steve

I believe this could be major usability improvement - it should be done as an option but I would use it all the time as in addition to simplifying the screen would also save a few seconds each time you used it from having to move the mouse to the right area to activate something.

For first time users it would also not overwhelm them visually..

Cheers

Phil

On 5/19/2011 12:56 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
Hi. This could work.
The smart marked text handling is similar to CAD software where
contextual button selections are frequently used. Often the contextual
button panel can be docked so that they are always in a fixed place for
the user.
steve

On 2011-05-19 11:54, Phil Jackson wrote:
Hi Steve

The mode that someone is in could be shown in the title bar after the
document title and -LibreOffice such as;

Untitled 1- LibreOffice Writer - Basic Mode (See Options menu to change)

This informs the user what mode they are in and also tells them that
it can be changed).

Also have a look at my suggestion on
Design\Whiteboards\InterfaceImprovement which does away with the need
for all the icons that affect marked text to be show on the main
screen. This single idea if implemented dramatically reduces the
screen complexity by bringing this functionality to the user when they
need it.

Cheers

Phil Jackson


On 5/19/2011 11:25 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
On 2011-05-19 11:02, Phil Jackson wrote:
Hi Bernhard

It's good to see similar ideas in operation/development with OOo4kids.

Being a programmer myself, I know it shouldn't be too difficult to
build menus and tool bars that have an additional User-Ranking tag.
When Toolbars and menus are displayed, it should also not be too
difficult to supress ones that don't fit the ranking. To future-proof
this system, the ranking must be flexible enough to allow for
extending it to more ranks without affecting current users' settings.
For example there could be a 2-3 character code where the first
character is the major level and subsequent characters the lower
levels.

With templates though, this will be a challenge. I agree with the
author of the second link that sometimes the software goes too far in
the decisions it makes. Any user who has tried to put multiple
pictures on a page and then started moving them around would have
experienced this happening.

Templates are perfect for repetitive tasks such as doing meeting
agendas where the structure stays the same each time, but the detail
changes. I personally think that when entering details into templates,
the number of operations needs to be restricted to actions like;
Copy a sub-section of the template i.e. an additional item is needed
for a list
Delete a sub-section of the template i.e. not needed

For those interested in templates, it would perhaps be useful to
consider the different uses for templates and identify some
commonalities between them. It's almost like an application which is
allowing for pre-formatted input.

Cheers

Phil Jackson




On 5/19/2011 10:04 AM, RGB ES wrote:
2011/5/18 Phil Jackson<sapient@clear.net.nz>:
Hi Kendy

This type of idea could be extended to apply to the installation
process.

i.e.
Power Users - want all options turned on and showing
Professional Users - most options turned on and showing
Moderate Users - reduced set of options turned on and showing
Basic User - minimum set to be functional, hide all others.

This could apply to Writer and Calc so that a user could indicate
Power user
for Writer but Moderate for Calc.

This would require that all toolbars have a ranking as well as all
pull-down
menu options and icons. e.g. 4 = Power User, 3=Professional User

If a person indicates 3 then only 4's are hidden, if they indicate 2
then
3's and 4's are hidden. A user can in time change their ranking to
see what
is available.

I've added this suggestion to
Design/WhitePaper/InterfaceImprovements which
can be accessed from Design/Whiteboards in the Document Foundation.
This is what OOo4kids is trying:
http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
But I'm not sure... mainly because a user that starts on the lowest
level most probably will not change. There is no easy answer for the
problem "basic vs. advanced users" unless you build two completely
different apps... or redesign the use of templates:
https://sites.google.com/site/rgbmldcwriterideas/home/wizard-trap


Bernhard Dippold
My idea goes the other way round: People interested in downloading
should
not be handled as part of a certain group (early adopters, home
users, corporate users),
but everybody should find his/her own position in the graphic and
pick the version next to this position.


      Anybody here who would be willing to design such a thing? ;-)
It's not at all a final design - not even a mockup.

It's just a visual brainstorming:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Adapt-o-meter.png
A big +1!!!

Hi. There are a number of applications that turn "Advanced" menus on or
off. I think this needs to be carefully managed so a potential user
doesn't install LO and then think it can't do a fraction of what MO does
because he doesn't realise he is in basic mode or that there is an
advanced mode. When I look through the menus of Writer almost everything
I see is a basic necessity so it is hard to see what would be dropped.
The status needs to be clearly visible in the panel or frame and also
how to change the functionality so that users do not feel LO has limited
ability.
May be in the bottom of the frame next to the slider for zoom there is a
slider for Menus, Simple<->Advanced. But then how is this reflected in
the buttons available on the panels and what is the implication on
graphical programming.
steve




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