[us-marketing] Re: DVD as swag for upcoming OSCON

On Fri, 2012-06-29 at 18:31 -0400, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
> I have a NA-DVD for Windows and Mac ISO file at 1.9 GB in size,
> without loosing much of the galleries, clipart, extras, etc., etc..
> Those things are part of what makes the NA-DVD "the NA-DVD".  If you
> gut it, then it cannot be, should not be, the NA Community DVD since
> the whole reason for the DVD was to have all these "extras" so a new
> user did not need to go online to fetch/find them.
>
> I have Windows and Mac installs, but no the portable version.
>
> I kept the dictionaries in tact and the 8 languages for the
> language/help packs.
>
> If you want to see what the Install and the Documentation pages look
> like with this version, here are PDF files of the printed pages.
>      http://libreoffice-na.us/Win-Mac_DVD_-_Documentation.pdf
>      http://libreoffice-na.us/Win-Mac_DVD_-_Install.pdf
>
> If you want to have a copy of the ISO, all I need to do is upload it
> to Drew's portal.  Should not take more that a few hours at my 120
> KB/s limits [due to old cables in building].
>
> Ubuntu tells me the size of the NA-DVD [just created a few minutes
> ago] 3.5.4 Win/Mac .iso file is - 1.9 GB (2006429696 bytes) - in size.
>
> The NA-DVD on the LO CD/DVD servers is - 4.0 GB (4266373120 bytes) -
> in size according to Ubuntu.
>
> The essence of the NA-DVD is kept for the Win/Mac only version I just
> made.  There still are add-ons and extras galore to "impress" a new
> user.  There are still over 180 dictionary/thesaurus/grammar
> extensions to impress a new user.  There still are the 6 non-English
> languages for language and help packs.  [The Hebrew language market is
> one that I have been told MSO does not support much, or at least out
> side of Israel.]
>
> You do not need to GUT the DVD to get the file size down to the 2 GB
> limit of a Thumb-drive.

Hi Tim,

Using the current set of files as a base to create other sets from is
not a statement that the original needs to change.

I did the same thing as you, a different mix of files no doubt, but it's
the same effect. Honestly I had the idea of this as a special release,
branded for the OSCON event, that is why I was pushed to pull it
together a little differently - Simon's not real hot on that idea, and
it was just a first thought. Fitting on a 2 GB USB struck a chord with
me also, IMO, that is very handy, I didn't realize you already had those
smaller files already to go. Thought it was only the full DVD image.

First sure push the iso images up to lo-portal, you could do that any
time.

Anyway - I'd still like to mix an image from the base of files you have
there, calling it something other than libo-na is no problem, if after
you see it, you still prefer it.

I had the same thought about the dictionaries when I looked at them
again and left all of them, removed all the extras and the templates in
zip files - leaving all of the oxt delivered templates minus the pimaco
files. 

Windows and Mac (intel and ppc) and the nine language sets.

Kept the latest java installs.

This image comes in at 1,930 MB also.

I do not want to gut the contents, but I do want to free up another 150
megs and replace it with some video content. I just got done uploading
that image to: http://lo-portal.us/aoo/DVD/oscon/dvd-libo35-win_mac.iso

Anyway - that is only for a reference - to work from, I will be deleting
that file in a day or two most.

If you want to put the images you have up there tonight, like I say
thats fine, it can run over night - and you can link to them from the
libreoffice-na site if you like.

//drew

> .
>
> On 06/29/2012 05:06 PM, Jean Weber wrote:
>
> > On 30/06/2012, at 1:38, Simon Phipps <simon@webmink.com> wrote:
> > > On 29 Jun 2012, at 16:34, drew jensen wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 2012-06-29 at 16:23 +0100, Simon Phipps wrote:
> > > > > Thanks for this, Drew.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 29 Jun 2012, at 16:09, drew jensen wrote:
> > > > > > 1) Given that LibreOffice IMO really needs to focus on brand building,
> > > > > > particularly in the MS Windows space I would first drop all the
> > > > > > platforms other then Windows.
> > > > > OSCON has a lot of Mac users, so if it's at all possible to shoehorn on the Mac DMG that 
> > > > > would be good.
> > > > Yeah - I thought about that - it would require bumping something else
> > > > out of the image, but that is OK with me.
> > > >
> > > > > > 2) The current libreoffice-na disk includes additional OSS applications,
> > > > > > again I propose to drop everything not for Windows.
> > > > > What sort of thing are they? Even Windows add-ons probably aren't essential, and if it 
> > > > > makes room for the Mac version all the better.
> > > > you can see the original set at
> > > > http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/extras.html
> > > >
> > > > I already ditched anything that was not the latest release for windows
> > > > from that list.
> > > I'd ditch the lot, honestly.
> >
> > I agree. It would be better to have NO additional programs and make
> > room for the Mac distribution.
> >
> > > > The larger prize, space wise, is in dictionaries and templates, I would
> > > > need to drop something from those to fit the MAC distribution files in I
> > > > think, even if I dumped all the extras.
> > > Which are you including? I think it's safe to just include US English, and possibly Spanish.
> > I agree re dictionaries. And I think we could get along without the
> > templates. They are a nice to have, but not essential.
> >
> >
> > > > > > What I would propose is to go ahead and update this cover and the disk
> > > > > > label to show that it was distributed at OSCON 2012. I snagged some
> > > > > > artwork for doing this, not sure what steps (or rather who to ask) for
> > > > > > permission to do so from a trademark perspective - I'm hoping maybe
> > > > > > Simon could weigh in on that - if it seems like a good thing to do, and
> > > > > > I really think it is, the I could work on the artwork today.
> > > > > Happy to help. Since we're representing TDF, I don't think there will be any trademark 
> > > > > problems even if you use the marks with the TDF underline, but I'll wait for the gurus to 
> > > > > chip in on that too.
> > > > I meant if I include some OSCON marks, that is the trademark I'm
> > > > concerned with, not TDF.
> > > Given Jean and I are both attending multiple events (including CLS) I think it would be 
> > > better not to mention OSCON specifically.
> > Once again, I agree with Simon.
> >
> > Also, in a previous note in this thread Drew wrote:
> > 3) Documentation - again I would pare what is on the disk down. If there
> > is a 3.5 guide ready, then drop the older 3.3/3.x docs. DO NOT include
> > the odt files, only the pdf files.
> >
> > Agree. Include only the latest, and only PDF.  BTW, there is a
> > complete set of v3.4 guides except for Calc, which will be finished
> > just too late for this. Hoping to get it done this weekend, but more
> > realistically next week sometime.
> >
> > Are you including individual chapter files as well as full books? If
> > so, drop the chapters to save a bit more space.
> >
> > Lastly, I'll confirm that Friends of OpenDocument are willing to
> > contribute to the costs of production and delivery, as Simon
> > mentioned.
> >
> > Jean



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