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I have a NA-DVD for Windows and Mac ISO file at 1.9 GB in size, without loosing much of the galleries, clipart, extras, etc., etc.. Those things are part of what makes the NA-DVD "/the NA-DVD/". If you gut it, then it cannot be, should not be, the NA Community DVD since the whole reason for the DVD was to have all these "extras" so a new user did not need to go online to fetch/find them.

I have Windows and Mac installs, but no the portable version.

I kept the dictionaries in tact and the 8 languages for the language/help packs.

If you want to see what the Install and the Documentation pages look like with this version, here are PDF files of the printed pages.
http://libreoffice-na.us/Win-Mac_DVD_-_Documentation.pdf
http://libreoffice-na.us/Win-Mac_DVD_-_Install.pdf

If you want to have a copy of the ISO, all I need to do is upload it to Drew's portal. Should not take more that a few hours at my 120 KB/s limits [due to old cables in building].

Ubuntu tells me the size of the NA-DVD [just created a few minutes ago] 3.5.4 Win/Mac .iso file is - 1.9 GB (2006429696 bytes) - in size.

The NA-DVD on the LO CD/DVD servers is - 4.0 GB (4266373120 bytes) - in size according to Ubuntu.

The essence of the NA-DVD is kept for the Win/Mac only version I just made. There still are add-ons and extras galore to "impress" a new user. There are still over 180 dictionary/thesaurus/grammar extensions to impress a new user. There still are the 6 non-English languages for language and help packs. [The Hebrew language market is one that I have been told MSO does not support much, or at least out side of Israel.]

You do not need to GUT the DVD to get the file size down to the 2 GB limit of a Thumb-drive.
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On 06/29/2012 05:06 PM, Jean Weber wrote:
On 30/06/2012, at 1:38, Simon Phipps <simon@webmink.com> wrote:
On 29 Jun 2012, at 16:34, drew jensen wrote:

On Fri, 2012-06-29 at 16:23 +0100, Simon Phipps wrote:
Thanks for this, Drew.

On 29 Jun 2012, at 16:09, drew jensen wrote:
1) Given that LibreOffice IMO really needs to focus on brand building,
particularly in the MS Windows space I would first drop all the
platforms other then Windows.
OSCON has a lot of Mac users, so if it's at all possible to shoehorn on the Mac DMG that would be 
good.
Yeah - I thought about that - it would require bumping something else
out of the image, but that is OK with me.

2) The current libreoffice-na disk includes additional OSS applications,
again I propose to drop everything not for Windows.
What sort of thing are they? Even Windows add-ons probably aren't essential, and if it makes room 
for the Mac version all the better.
you can see the original set at
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/extras.html

I already ditched anything that was not the latest release for windows
from that list.
I'd ditch the lot, honestly.

I agree. It would be better to have NO additional programs and make
room for the Mac distribution.

The larger prize, space wise, is in dictionaries and templates, I would
need to drop something from those to fit the MAC distribution files in I
think, even if I dumped all the extras.
Which are you including? I think it's safe to just include US English, and possibly Spanish.
I agree re dictionaries. And I think we could get along without the
templates. They are a nice to have, but not essential.


What I would propose is to go ahead and update this cover and the disk
label to show that it was distributed at OSCON 2012. I snagged some
artwork for doing this, not sure what steps (or rather who to ask) for
permission to do so from a trademark perspective - I'm hoping maybe
Simon could weigh in on that - if it seems like a good thing to do, and
I really think it is, the I could work on the artwork today.
Happy to help. Since we're representing TDF, I don't think there will be any trademark problems 
even if you use the marks with the TDF underline, but I'll wait for the gurus to chip in on that 
too.
I meant if I include some OSCON marks, that is the trademark I'm
concerned with, not TDF.
Given Jean and I are both attending multiple events (including CLS) I think it would be better not 
to mention OSCON specifically.
Once again, I agree with Simon.

Also, in a previous note in this thread Drew wrote:
3) Documentation - again I would pare what is on the disk down. If there
is a 3.5 guide ready, then drop the older 3.3/3.x docs. DO NOT include
the odt files, only the pdf files.

Agree. Include only the latest, and only PDF.  BTW, there is a
complete set of v3.4 guides except for Calc, which will be finished
just too late for this. Hoping to get it done this weekend, but more
realistically next week sometime.

Are you including individual chapter files as well as full books? If
so, drop the chapters to save a bit more space.

Lastly, I'll confirm that Friends of OpenDocument are willing to
contribute to the costs of production and delivery, as Simon
mentioned.

Jean





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