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--- Comment #24 from Rene Engelhard <rene@debian.org> ---
So a JPEG or PNG file is software? That's news to me.

Yes. We also remove non-free images.

As for Debian's position, I frankly don't care about it. They're "freedom" fundamentalists

Yes, we are.
And you don't care about free software, otherwise you wouldn't have used ND.

Clear position on each side. In that I agree, we have our positions and won't
change it.

Finally, let me ask you a question: Would it be fine with you if a competitor > of LO (MS, Corel, 
whoever) crippled this magnificent software and slapped the > LO logo on it, just to damage its 
reputation?

Ubuntu does that to Debian. While I don't like that it's (partly) free sofware
so allowed...

I don't think so, and there are rules regarding the use of the LO logo. Does that make LO 
non-free?

We had that fight already with OOo. There is common sense. And there's a
difference between logo copyright and the right to modify. But the exact same
nonsense here causes iceweasel vs. firefox and thunderbird vs. icedove, where
Debian DID NOT do broken changes but just security updates on older versions
and/or building so it integrates into the distro.

Yes. And I didn't say about keeping the name. That "renaming" *is* allowed. If
ND (then the name is totally bullshit and should be something else saying
"don't distribute under the same name")

Likewise, the *only* reason we chose the ND option for this palette was to 
prevent mean-spirited users and / or competitors from undermining the
reliability of the palette in real-world workflows.

Again, common sense.

and remind me of people who insist on talking loudly during a burial ceremony > or a piano 
concerto and rely on their right to free speach.

No,Saying something somewhere (with exceptions when it becomes criminal) is
free speech, but here this is just bad behaviour and disturbing.

Again, common sense.

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