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Hi :)
Hopefully 'just' teething problems that will be ironed out fairly quickly,

Were you able to follow the route;
Tools - Options - Advanced - Expert
and then search for relevant options to get the main top menu back again?
Regards from
a Tom :)

On 6 July 2018 at 15:43, Graham Luffrum <> wrote:

This is all very well, but on my system ( under Linux Mint 18.1) the
settings icon does not work which means that I can get back to the default
only by changing the Notebooktoolbar settings.  Also the menubar is not
shown by default - again this requires changes to the Notebooktoolbar


On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 09:24, M Henri Day <> wrote:

Den tors 5 juli 2018 kl 14:39 skrev Philip Jackson <>:

I tried the Notebookbar after looking at the Fedora article. It worked
just as advertised and I managed to return to default using the '3
horizontal lines' icon on the rhs of the ribbon.  I was using LO
(I think)

I wasn't impressed by the Notebookbar - it seems to be variations on a
theme started by MS some years ago and immediately followed by some
other software houses just like it was the fashion of the day. The
introduction of the ribbon by Avid Sibelius raised howls of protest
the veteran users of Sibelius - but that's just because we're mostly
very conservative and don't like change.

Yesterday, I upgraded LO to and took the opportunity to recheck
Notebookbar. Out of the 6 variants, the first 2 'Contextual Groups' and
'Contextual Simple' don't show the little icon. The next 2 variants,
'Tabbed' and 'Tabbed Compact' do show the icon.

The last two, 'Grouped bar full' and 'Group bar compact' don't show the
icon BUT they do have an item at the far right called 'Menu' which has
drop down which allows you to toggle on the Menu Bar  - and to select
the different variants of Notebookbar.

The number of combinations seem to be numerous. I may have missed a
combination but it seemed to me that although I could turn off the
regular MenuBar in the Grouped Bar full and compact variants, it still
appeared in the 2 tabbed variants.

This ribbon seems good to pass away a few spare minutes. For a new
it may provide something of interest but I think I'll stay with the old
menu bar.



Agree with Philip above about retaining the old toolbar layout - one
of course, learn the «ribbon»​, but why bother - especially when it is
complicated to use and doesn't seem to provide any advantages. But I do
think it's worthwhile experimenting with and it's easy to get back to the
default toolbar layout, så long as the menubar is shown (which it is by
defautl ; if one doesn't see it in the ribbon view, click the settings
(the three horizontal lines) at the upper right and check the
just click there on View → Toolbar Layout and choose Default....


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