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I have to say that I'm a traditionalist.  One reason I prefer LO to MS
Office is the toolbar layout.  With MS Office I wasted too much time trying
to find what I wanted.


On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 17:41, M Henri Day <> wrote:

Den fre 6 juli 2018 kl 17:18 skrev Graham Luffrum <>:

I've had a quick look at and the toolbars have changed and I can
get back to the "default" from every variant.  So maybe my problem with is not worth pursuing.


On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 17:08, M Henri Day <> wrote:

Den fre 6 juli 2018 kl 16:45 skrev Graham Luffrum <

This is all very well, but on my system ( under Linux Mint 18.1)
settings icon does not work which means that I can get back to the
only by changing the Notebooktoolbar settings.  Also the menubar is not
shown by default - again this requires changes to the Notebooktoolbar



​Odd. On my setup - *nota bene*, with Expert enabled - with the standard
layout enabled, I don't see the settings icon, but when i have the
layout enabled, the icon is visible and clicking it gives me the option
enable the menubar, from which I can then proceed to return to the
layout. We are both running LO (in my case, the 64-bit version)
Linux Mint, and I find it difficult to believe the fact that I'm using a
more recent version of LM (19.0) than you are or that my LO is the
edition can explain the differences we seem to experience. Perhaps a
developer could be enticed to weigh in ?...


​Thanks for reporting back, Graham ; if the issue has been resolved in
6.1.0, then I agree - there's not much reason to pursue it further. But
which layout did you prefer, the Notebook or the default ?...


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