Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fedora Magazine article about LibreOffice

On 07/04/2018 11:47 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Ok, last email on this for a while!
>
> This wiki-page seems to be about the feature but i couldn't see any mention
> of ohw to switch it off
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar
> but prolly because i only skimmed it
> Regards from
> a Tom :)

I just tried it, too, and had the same problem of switching off the 
notebookbar.

I found that there is more than one option for notebookbar. Some of them 
allow you to retain the normal menu bar, but other do not. In my 
experimentation, I clicked on one of the options that does *not* retain 
the menu bar. Without the menu bar I was left only with the notebookbar 
options and none of them included a way to get rid of it or get back to 
normal.

I was in Impress at the time. I tried opening up Writer, which came up 
with the standard menu/toolbar. I then clicked on "Tools", "Options", 
"Advanced", and un-checked the box to allow experimental features. I 
then saved my choice, closed LO and reopened it. However, when I 
reopened Impress, I was still faced with the Notebookbar even though I 
had unchecked the experimental features. I was afraid I was going to 
have to rename my configuration folder, which I really didn't want to do.

So, then I clicked on "Tools", "Options", "Advanced" and then clicked on 
"Open Expert Configuration." I am no expert and had never clicked on 
this before, but stay with me on this.

When the expert configuration popped up, I did a search for 
"notebookbar". From within the results of the search, I scrolled down to 
see, "org.openoffice.Office.UI.Notebookbar:Application["Impress"]" Below 
that line were various preferences that could be changed. I looked in 
the "Property" column and found several that read "HasMenubar". Some 
said "true" for the value, but most said "false". I took the "true" 
value to mean that the menu bar would be available with those particular 
notebookbars. So I clicked on every preference line that read 
"HasMenubar" so that its value switched to "true".

After doing that, I pressed OK and restarted LO. This time, when I 
opened Impress, I was again faced with the NoteBookbar, but the normal 
menu bar was also available. I was then able to go into "View", "Toolbar 
Layout" and turn off the notebookbar.

So much for trying experimental functions.

I will say that, while I was playing with the notebookbar, I didn't see 
any real advantage to it. Under the default menu/toolbar system, the 
user can find all functions through the menu and then use toolbars for 
single-click shortcuts. With the notebookbar (like MS's Ribbon) the 
menus and toolbars are combined, meaning that, for many of the 
functions, one must use multiple clicks through tabs and options within 
tabs to find the desired function. It certainly isn't any faster than 
the old-style system, although I imagine that, over time, I could grow 
to appreciate the organization of it.

Virgil

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