Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fedora Magazine article about LibreOffice

Hi :)
Wow!!  Good find!  Also thanks for leading us through the "Expert"
configuration.  It sounds a bit like "about:config" in firefox.  A bit
scary but kinda possible.

Something i never think of until after it is tooo late is to make a copy of
my user-profile BEFORE playing around, or at some point where i'm
more-or-less happy with how things work.  I guess it's partly because i'm
never completely happy.  I just know there are tons of config options that
i can never quite remember but that i really should tweak because some
years ago i found a tweak or two that i liked but i never get around to
because the defaults are plenty good enough.

Regards from
a Tom :)

On 4 July 2018 at 21:49, Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 07/04/2018 11:47 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > Ok, last email on this for a while!
> >
> > This wiki-page seems to be about the feature but i couldn't see any
> mention
> > of ohw to switch it off
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar
> > but prolly because i only skimmed it
> > Regards from
> > a Tom :)
>
> I just tried it, too, and had the same problem of switching off the
> notebookbar.
>
> I found that there is more than one option for notebookbar. Some of them
> allow you to retain the normal menu bar, but other do not. In my
> experimentation, I clicked on one of the options that does *not* retain
> the menu bar. Without the menu bar I was left only with the notebookbar
> options and none of them included a way to get rid of it or get back to
> normal.
>
> I was in Impress at the time. I tried opening up Writer, which came up
> with the standard menu/toolbar. I then clicked on "Tools", "Options",
> "Advanced", and un-checked the box to allow experimental features. I
> then saved my choice, closed LO and reopened it. However, when I
> reopened Impress, I was still faced with the Notebookbar even though I
> had unchecked the experimental features. I was afraid I was going to
> have to rename my configuration folder, which I really didn't want to do.
>
> So, then I clicked on "Tools", "Options", "Advanced" and then clicked on
> "Open Expert Configuration." I am no expert and had never clicked on
> this before, but stay with me on this.
>
> When the expert configuration popped up, I did a search for
> "notebookbar". From within the results of the search, I scrolled down to
> see, "org.openoffice.Office.UI.Notebookbar:Application["Impress"]" Below
> that line were various preferences that could be changed. I looked in
> the "Property" column and found several that read "HasMenubar". Some
> said "true" for the value, but most said "false". I took the "true"
> value to mean that the menu bar would be available with those particular
> notebookbars. So I clicked on every preference line that read
> "HasMenubar" so that its value switched to "true".
>
> After doing that, I pressed OK and restarted LO. This time, when I
> opened Impress, I was again faced with the NoteBookbar, but the normal
> menu bar was also available. I was then able to go into "View", "Toolbar
> Layout" and turn off the notebookbar.
>
> So much for trying experimental functions.
>
> I will say that, while I was playing with the notebookbar, I didn't see
> any real advantage to it. Under the default menu/toolbar system, the
> user can find all functions through the menu and then use toolbars for
> single-click shortcuts. With the notebookbar (like MS's Ribbon) the
> menus and toolbars are combined, meaning that, for many of the
> functions, one must use multiple clicks through tabs and options within
> tabs to find the desired function. It certainly isn't any faster than
> the old-style system, although I imagine that, over time, I could grow
> to appreciate the organization of it.
>
> Virgil
>
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