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On 11/12/13 4:45 PM, Pedro wrote:
Hi Paul


Paul-6 wrote
Third, "there is nothing forcing him to work on anything but what he
wants to" is exactly the problem IMO.
Sure, but it is a problem with no solution. Unless you have blackmail
material, or bribery material (such as, say, a salary), there is very
little you can do to force someone to do something they don't want. The
best would be to come up with better incentives.

You are missing the voluntary concept. Voluntary doesn't mean that you do
what you feel like when you feel like. It means that you are volunteering
your time and/or skills for some project. Someone coordinates the tasks no
matter how uncomfortable and assigns them. Then everybody contributes to do
it on the agreed schedule.

Do you think it is a pleasure to go out at night during the Winter to
distribute food to the homeless? Yet volunteers do this...

+1 That is *exactly* the concept of volunteers. Add firefighters to this list. They may put their lives at risk entering a burning building, and they don't get paid.


Paul-6 wrote
I'm suggesting that a compromise based volunteer model is applied to
all, not just to developers. Then you might start to see a change and
a real community ;)
I'm not following; who apart from the developers would you apply this
to? To what end?

To anyone contributing to this project. It is quite obvious by your comment
that anyone who can't code isn't an important part of this project.
Someone like myself who helps irregularly on AskLO. Someone who helps
irregularly on Translation. Someone who helps on Documentation... all those
useless non-developers...

If there is a sense of responsibility and commitment so that you can
actually feel that people are doing whatever is needed within a defined
schedule (not just " what they want, when they want") then you can create a
real community and move forward much faster.

Charles-H, if you are reading this: this is one of the reasons it's hard do
engage users. At some point they are reminded that they are not developers
and therefore secondary in this project...

Best regards,
Pedro



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