Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin

Tom,

I appreciate your infectious enthusiasm, but the process you describe is a 
little more involved than most of us mere users want to get. William is just 
trying to finish a project, and he finds that, apparently, the version of LO 
he's using doesn't do what my version does.

It is frankly maddening to have to file a bug report for a feature that 
previously worked just fine.

I just went to the LO download page, and the default download is version 
4.0.4. By going through several layers of web pages, I can get to a page 
where I can download 4.0.4 or 3.6.6, or PreRelease versions 4.1.0 or 3.6.7. 
That's four different options.

This system has been so frustrating that I now use Atlantis for 95% of my 
word processing work (which is 95% of my work in general.) Yes, it's a 
commercial shareware program, but it works, and its features are fairly easy 
to find and implement.

When I need more advanced features, like tables, or a spreadsheet, then I 
use LO, but it has grown too complex and uncertain for my more basic needs.

Virgil





-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom Davies
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 1:28 PM
To: Virgil Arrington
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin

Hi :)
If it is not working in newer releases then please just post a bug report 
and include the last version number where you noticed it working as well as 
the first version where you noticed it not working any more.  You don't need 
to try out tons of versions to precisely pinpoint it although that might be 
helpful if you do have time.


Not all features can be comprehensively tested unless we have tons of people 
doing the testing.  That is why it helps if you can do even a quick test of 
a new branch while it is still in alpha or beta-testing or at least early in 
the branch's release cycle (like 4.1.0 or 4.1.2)

Regards from

Tom :)






> ________________________________
> From: Virgil Arrington <cuyfalls@hotmail.com>
> To: Steve Edmonds <steve.edmonds@ptglobal.com>; William Drago 
> <wdrago@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Monday, 1 July 2013, 12:56
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin
>
>
> There are two ways of setting a left and right margin in a header.
>
> One way is to do it in the page formatting and page style settings where 
> you
> set left and right margins for the page and header. LO doesn't seem to
> recognize negative header margins in the page formatting/style dialogs.
>
> The other way is in the paragraph formatting and paragraph style settings,
> where you set the negative indents in the "Indents and Spacing" tab of the
> paragraph formatting dialog boxes.
>
> My version of LO *does* recognize negative header indents in the paragraph
> formatting/style dialogs.
>
> I'm using LO 3.6.6.2 on a Win7 machine.
>
> If a newer version of LO doesn't allow negative paragraph indents beyond 
> the
> page margins, it only underscores my frustration with LO's version release
> philosophy. New versions should *never* go backwards in terms of bugs.
>
> Virgil
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Steve Edmonds
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:29 PM
> To: William Drago
> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin
>
> Your right, someones mucked it up.
> I have quite a few documents with the header wider than the page margins
> from an older version. They open ok and show the header wider, I have
> not tried an edit to see if my formatting is lost or not. I have some
> vague recollection of a tick box about synchronise header and page width
> or header width the same as the page but not sure where that came from
> (as it aint there now).
>
> Oops, formatting lost, the headers (and footers) have now been shrunk by
> LO to match the page margins.
> steve
> On 2013-07-01 13:44, William Drago wrote:
> > Negative indents are rejected by LO. If I type -1.00" the minus sign is
> > dropped as soon as I click Apply.
> >
> > -Bill
> >
> > On 6/26/2013 1:31 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
> > > Hi William,
> > >
> > > William Drago schrieb:
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > I am working on a research paper. The required page layout puts last
> > > > name, working title, and page number in the upper right hand corner of
> > > > each page, outside the right hand margin.
> > > >
> > > > It is similar to what is shown here, but has to appear on every page,
> > > > not just the first page, and has to be outside the right margin and
> > > > closer to the top of the page.
> > > >
> > > > http://www15.uta.fi/FAST/PK6/CITEX/TRADMOD/trad-mla.html
> > > >
> > > > How can this be done in LO Writer?
> > >
> > > Something, that should be repeated on each page, goes into the header or
> > > footer. If this should be beyond the right edge of the text area, you 
> > > can
> > > use a negative indent of the paragraph in the header. You can use a 
> > > frame
> > > anchored to the header paragraph as well. A frame has the advantage, 
> > > that
> > > the position is more flexible.
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > > Regina
>
>
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