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Hi Virgil,

Thank you for the detailed reply. I've been meaning to learn how to use styles, so I'll give this a try.

Regards,

-Bill

On 6/26/2013 7:55 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
William,

Your document would use page styles. The page style for the first page would not have any headers. Then the page style for the subsequent pages would have a header. You can then format the lines (paragraphs) within the header to any left and right margin you would like. (To have margins extend beyond the normal page margin, use negative numbers in your paragraph indent settings.)

To get to the page styles, make sure you're styles list is showing (press F11 if it isn't). Then, at the top of the list are icons for (from left to right) paragraph styles, character styles, frame styles, and then page styles (it looks like a sheet of paper). Click on that icon to see a list of the page styles available for your document. You can then right click on any one of them to modify them or create new ones. At this point, it would be best for you to experiment with the page styles yourself, creating new ones or modifying existing ones to get the result that you want. Take careful note of the option on the "organizer" tab for "next style" as it will show what page style will be used for the following page. Sometimes this can cause some frustration. Also, there is an option in the header tab to set left and right margins. It may not allow negative margin settings here (I just tried it and it ignored me), so you may need to set negative margins at the paragraph indent level rather than the header margin level.

It's all about learning to use styles, paragraph styles for paragraph level formatting and page styles for page level formatting. It's a pain to learn, and while you're learning you want to cuss out the LO developers, but once you learn it, you'll bless them as you'll be able to make your documents sing. The only way I know to learn is to experiment and play with them, creating your own styles along the way. I know its frustrating when all you want to do is finish the current project, but the more you learn now, the more you'll be able to apply to future projects to make your work so much quicker, automated, and consistent. It really is worth the effort.

What I find most interesting is the dark ages style of formatting papers that you've been handed, with paragraph indents measured in "spaces" and lines in terms of "single" "double" and "triple" spacing. Is this an Underwood we're using or a computer?

As long as we remain entrenched in a typewriter mentality (even though many of us have never typed a single letter on a typewriter), we will never learn the advanced capabilities of our computers, which act more like printing presses than typewriters.

Virgil


-----Original Message----- From: William Drago
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:01 AM
To: LibreOffice List
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin

All,

I am working on a research paper. The required page layout
puts last name, working title, and page number in the upper
right hand corner of each page, outside the right hand margin.

It is similar to what is shown here, but has to appear on
every page, not just the first page, and has to be outside
the right margin and closer to the top of the page.

http://www15.uta.fi/FAST/PK6/CITEX/TRADMOD/trad-mla.html

How can this be done in LO Writer?

Thanks,
-Bill




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