Re: [libreoffice-users] beware of the m$ subsidiary

Hi :)
The question is a moving target and seems to be moving in our favour.  More people are using LO/OOo 
now even if it's often alongside MSO.  

Also it's about how much power and control you have.  There are many circumstances where you are 
totally at the mercy of other people and have to accept what they use.  A single job-seeker signing 
up with agencies, an office worker that has to comply with company policy, a company reliant on 
customers who could easily go elsewhere.  However there are many places where you can grab power 
and demand that people treat you with some consideration.  So grab when you can and just gently 
push the rest of the time and gracefully give-in but have another go a while later.  

Just my tuppence
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Wed, 18/4/12, Jay Lozier <jslozier@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jay Lozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] beware of the m$ subsidiary
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 April, 2012, 1:20

On 04/17/2012 06:56 PM, e-letter wrote:
> On 17/04/2012, webmaster-Kracked_P_P<webmaster@krackedpress.com>  wrote:
> > Well, it is always good to promote ODF, but if you work in a business
> > environment, you cannot get away from MSO's file formats.  I create the
> > documents in LO and save my copy in ODF, but I still have to send
> > editable files to some people who's business or agency has not or cannot
> > switch to LO.  So for these people/businesses/agencies, I need to send
> > them MSO file formatted documents.
> You could send in odf, which m$ is supposed to support. Growth in the
> quantity of odf documents, together with people complaining to m$
> (instead of complaining to LO!), the long term effect is to force m$
> to improve compatibility with odf, _not_ vice versa! The analogy is
> one of the worse technologies: flash. Thankfully, successful marketing
> of apple products increased the quantity of non-flash devices and
> therefore the demand for other technologies, e.g. html5.
>
> > Promote LO and ODF, but you still have to deal with those who have not
> > switched over to LO and/or ODF.  Most government agencies [USA] at all
> > levels are not "allowed" to use any other office package but MSO AND are
> > forbidden to install software on their computers, including
> > screen-savers and such.  I know of one that will not allow the use of
> > USB devices as well.  So, until everyone switches to ODF, we must
> > continue to save some of our documents to MSO formates and send them off
> > to others.
I wonder if someone in the USA could sue and win because the MSO format is a proprietary format 
thus requiring users to buy a proprietary product for best results. If an agency used only odf 
formats that are readable by any number of free and proprietary products then users are not forced 
to purchase specific product for best results.
> Such organisations were often forced to use m$ie6, whilst the world
> moved forward to using safari, opera, firefox, etc.. The world did not
> wait for m$ to improve their web browser! Therefore, the claim that
> everyone must simultaneously change to odf is a fallacy.


-- Jay Lozier
jslozier@gmail.com


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