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On 17/04/12 23:16, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
To quote Battlestar Galactica "All this has happened before and will happen again".

Other companies have also tried opening OpenSource departments or sections that work on allegedly OpenSource projects with 
varying success.  Quality of the licenses is checked by various people and organisations.  "The Linux Foundation" 
and the "Free Software Foundation" are good.  If the licenses allow people to check the code then the code gets 
checked too.  If the licenses don't allow people to explore the code then it's not OpenSource anyway.  MS's kernel 
contributions apparently got cleaned up by non-MS people because MS wouldn't clean up the code themsleves.  NVidia's 
hybrid, partly OpenSource drivers led to big improvements in the properly OpenSource drivers and now NVidia cards seem to 
be better than Ati in Gnu&Linux even tho many of us would prefer to get Ati cards.

Most of us do have to continue to support MS formats but that doesn't mean we have to use them 

Have you ever worked in an office and found a bunch of people all smoke together or chip off down 
the pub together and become an unofficial clique that work together better and support each other 
more than the rest of the office?  That sort of thing is beginning to happen with ODF users.

Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Tue, 17/4/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P<>  wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P<>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] beware of the m$ subsidiary
Date: Tuesday, 17 April, 2012, 13:01

Well, it is always good to promote ODF, but if you work in a business environment, you cannot get 
away from MSO's file formats.  I create the documents in LO and save my copy in ODF, but I still 
have to send editable files to some people who's business or agency has not or cannot switch to LO. 
 So for these people/businesses/agencies, I need to send them MSO file formatted documents.

Promote LO and ODF, but you still have to deal with those who have not switched over to LO and/or ODF.  Most 
government agencies [USA] at all levels are not "allowed" to use any other office package but MSO 
AND are forbidden to install software on their computers, including screen-savers and such.  I know of one 
that will not allow the use of USB devices as well.  So, until everyone switches to ODF, we must continue to 
save some of our documents to MSO formates and send them off to others.

On 04/17/2012 07:50 AM, e-letter wrote:

M$ is allegedly seeking to invest in "interoperability" and open

Perhaps more for 'Groklaw', but isn't this a potential trojan horse to
pollute GPLv3? We will see true "interoperability" only when odf and
openformula become the defaults within m$o. Until then, please avoid
creation of m$ formats using LO and continue to promote odf.

Which pub? ;)

Cheers Simon

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