[libreoffice-users] Re: Re: When will be a Web-Version of OOo/LO available?

Hello webmaster for Kracked Press Productions,

Am 2011-12-14 10:07:38, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> As for how soon will there be a cloud app that is not so limiting,
> it is all in the economics of server side computing, which
> cloud-based apps mostly are.  It is expensive to have a set of
> servers

Since my "busiess type" customers have there own servers here...

> and bandwidth

...and my WDM system  (Transmode  TS)  in  Kehl/Germany  support  up  to
16 x 10GE and 32 x 1GE in parallel, bandwidth is the lesser problem.

(currently I have only 1x 10GE and 23x 1GE in 9 different locations)

> to host a package that does the computing for
> you, instead of your system doing its own work.  These servers are
> usually owned by large companies that have the ability to either
> charge a "cloud" fee

Right, these are my existing customers demanding new  solutions  and  of
course are willing to pay for additional services.

> or have other income sources to cover the huge
> costs.  How many servers would be needed to do the computing power
> for 1,000 people using a package like LibreOffice?

None of my customers (enterprises) will have more then 30 peoples  using
it parallel.  Maybe 50 could be in worst case, but thats nothing  for  a
well designed Server Software

>  How many would
> it be for 100,000?  Who pays for these servers and all the
> electricity?

Meeeeee!  Currently arround 12.800 Euro/Month.  :-D

Since I am electonic engineer to, I develop a Low-Energy Server based on
multicore ARM Microcontrollers.  Currently I use  the  Marvel  Discovery
MV78200 (1200MHz Dual-Core; 2x PCIe 4x; 2x SAS Raid-5 Conteoller with up
8 drives each) and I am now waiting vor the new Multi-Core with 2.5 GHz.

Oh, multiple MV78200 are coupled over a PCIe bridge

Now imagine 8x SAS 300 GByte in Raid-5 with Hotfix = 1.8 TB of available
Diskspace plus the PCIe bridge and  consuming  normaly  20 Watt  and  in
worst case 40 Watt...  Each additional Dual-Core µC Bard 6 watt more.

The new system save me more then 60% Energy

>  Google Docs has a mega-company like Google to pay for
> the servers needed to do the online "cloud" computing needed to
> serve all its users. Small companies, or not-for-profit ones would
> never be able to afford to do the same thing.

Not true.  The costs for Blade-Servers are VERY low.

Some of my customers (5-10 Employees) running on a MV78200 with two  SAS
drives in Raid-1 and do not use the performance of the Blades to 20%.

Now imagine, the Blade-Racks are only 300mm depth not like the huge  ISP
Server racks with 1100mm (e.g IBM Netfiny;   have  arround  250  eServes
Running)

Also my new datacenter in Kehl/Germany will have a 4.000 m² Solar  Power
Plant on the roof...

The WHOLE datacenter is designed from scratch for this purpose.

> Personally, I do not like the idea of cloud based computing, for
> security reasons and ownership of files.  If the connection to the
> Internet is down on your end or theirs, you do not have access to
> your data.

Hmmm, maybe you do not know HOW Cloud computing can work...  ;-)

Cloud computing does not mean, you but a some million HDDs together to a
PetaByte Storage and let users store there data infinite.

Most of my customers do no wan this:  Because of security reason.

The most important thing is, there data MUST  be  stored  in  THERE  own
country which Google, Amazon and Apple can nor guarantee and of  course,
these are US American enterpises and I hope you  know the "Patriot Act".

Welcome in the world of industrial spionage...

This mean, application must work in the sense of "Own Cloud".

> To be honest, I do not see a lot of people needing to use
> cloud-based computing, except for the Tablet market.

This is one of main demands of my customers, which hold  the  amount  of
users per server very low.  As I have ready written normaly  arround  30
and in worst case 50.

> Since you do most business/personal work via a
> laptop or desktop, and not a tablet, you would use the cloud for
> files, not computing.

This depends on you business...  If I  worked  as  PMC,  I  used  rugged
TabletPC and Laptops where we have only the bare minimum on  it  without
and data.


Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
    Michelle Konzack

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