Re: [libreoffice-users] Rountrip Conversion Problems (was Re: Should LibreOffice ... secret formats?)

On 11/09/2011, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:
>  3. Although PowerPoint 2010 will recognize the correct dashed line when
> opening the ODP directly (not as a PPT), dashed lines produced in ODP format
> from PowerPoint 2010 are not read correctly (as ODP format) by either
> PowerPoint 2010 or LibreOffice Impress.

Personally, whether m$ is capable of opening the odp file is secondary
to a more interesting question: does this observation occur when the
odp is created _by LO_ to odf12 or the other options odf10/11 and
odf11? If my memory is correct you stated that m$o claims conformance
to odf10; in this case we would want to see LO create the odp file in
version odf10 and then m$o opens this file successfully and without
distortion (analogous to opening a w3 compliant html file in opera and
firefox).

If the m$ user receives the aforementioned file with distortion, two
expected causes would be either LO failing to create correctly the odp
file to the specification, or m$ fails to conform to the odf
specification. The former could be discounted if the recipient opens
the file in his/her LO and receives no distortion (assuming both LO
installations are odf compliant!).

If LO creates the odp file in an odf specification that m$ does not
understand, the m$ user should expect to receive a distorted file.

> Z. Document Z from Dennis (ODP made from Document Y using PowerPoint 2010)
>
> LibreOffice Impress opens this document and retains a dashed line, but the
> dashes are much smaller and there are many of them.  At 100% these view as
> intermittent long and short dashes.

Do you have to change the odf specification setting of LO?

> PowerPoint 2010 opens this document (which it produced) and the dashed line
> has turned into a solid line.

To clarify, this occurs when m$ shows the odp file on screen as
expected (i.e. dashed line) but after closing m$ and reopening, a
solid line is visible?

> PS: I must point out that the primary marketing thrust of OpenOffice.org was
> and is that it offers (unqualified) support for key Microsoft Office
> formats, it is free, and it runs on more than Windows.  I don't know how
> LibreOffice is positioned, but it would be interesting to see what would
> happen if "support for Microsoft Office formats" were to be removed from all
> promotional statements concerning LibreOffice.

It is interesting that so many are fearful of the "nightmare scenario"
of LO not supporting m$, but that is _not_ the objective of the
original opinion. As consistently stated, the issue is that the time
spent reporting behaviour of LO with m$ formats must be spent more
profitably long term on the odf instead. On the basis of those
comments posted, the unfortunate conclusion is that for m$ users, odf
is of lesser importance than m$ which makes LO a mere m$ clone.

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