RE: [libreoffice-users] Rountrip Conversion Problems (was Re: Should LibreOffice ... secret formats?)

I repeated test similar to those NoOp also performed to see how the variations that I made with the 
dashed-line slide image show up here.

CONCLUSION

The round trip from Document A to B back to C is definitely broken in Libre Office in the manner 
described by Spencer.

The opening of either Document A or Document B in Word 2010 produces a terrible result where the 4 
columns are longer and flow at their bottoms onto a second page.

This is so bad I despair of doing any further isolation.

 - Dennis

ANALYSIS DETAILS

A. Document A - The ODT from Spencer. In LO 3.3.2 I see 4 columns, each 1.5" wide, with about 0.5" 
between.  The Format | Columns dialog reports 1.42" with 0.70" spacing and AutoWidth is selected.

B. Document B - The Word 27-2000 format DOC from Document A via Libre Office, by Spencer

C. Document C - The ODT file that reflects what is seen when Document B is opened in Libre Office.

When I open Document A in Word 2010, I see the problem that NoOp reported, concerning a blank 
column showing up.  There is also an error message about "Drawn Objects and Text Boxes 1."  I also 
see that there is a second page having 4 more columns (the 4th column is empty).  It appears that 
the columns stretch vertically down onto the second page.  That is, there are only 4 columns but 
each column is two pages long, and the top of the second column is all blank, so its content only 
appears on the second page.  There are also columns whose content image flows off the bottom of the 
page and is chopped off.

When I open Document B in Word 2010, What I see is almost the same as when opening Document A in 
Word, but the B view has a duplicate title over one of the figures of the Financial Industry 
Profits graph in column 2.

Document C in LibreOffice is now 2 pages because the column sizes are screwed up, leading to 4 
columns on the first page and a fifth column on the second page.  

There's no point in making a Document X because I have no means to obtain a correct version in Word 
to try saving back.

-----Original Message-----
From: NoOp [mailto:glgxg@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 15:09
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?

On 09/11/2011 11:06 AM, Spencer Graves wrote:
> Another example:
>
>
> 1.  Download 
> "http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/resources/flyers/noCreditCd-bookmark20110306.odt";.
>
>
>
>
> 2.  Open in LibreOffice 3.4.3.  Save as MS Word 97 *.doc format.
>
>
> 3.  Close, then reopen the *.doc version:  When I did this now under
>  Windows 7, this changed the widths of the columns had changed and
> with it the column breaks, etc.  I checked Format -> Page -> Columns:
> *.odt showed from Autowidth with columns = 1.42, space = 0.70;  *.doc
> had columns = 2.13, space = 0.70.  The numbers do not make sense to
> me, but the visual change is clear.  I noticed this problem with an
> earlier version of LibreOffice 3.4 and I think also with Open Office
> 3.3.
...

I tested as per the above, and indeed LO does save the .doc with
modified column widths. I tested by saveas in LO 3.3.3 and then opened
the .doc with:

LO 3.3.3 (linux)
LO 3.4.3 (linux)
OOo 3.2.1 (go-oo build - Ubuntu linux)
OOo 3.2.0 (Windows)
MSO Word97 (yes I have MSO97 on an VirtuaBox Win2K install)

The worst/more serious issue is that in MSO Word97 blank second column
is inserted/shown. This means that the document renders only 3 populated
columns rather than 4. Screenshot is here:

http://imageshack.us/f/841/screenshotwin2kprorunni.png/

So, you've a valid bug to report. Check to see if one hasn't already
been filed before filing yours. Start a new thread regarding the problem
when you've done that and I'll be glad to contribute/add to the bug
report with my tests/screenshots.





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