Re: [libreoffice-users] Rountrip Conversion Problems (was Re: Should LibreOffice ... secret formats?)

Hi, Dennis:


      Thanks very much.  Should I do something to file bug reports on 
these items?


      Spencer


On 9/11/2011 5:08 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> I repeated test similar to those NoOp also performed to see how the variations that I made with the 
> dashed-line slide image show up here.
>
> CONCLUSION
>
> The round trip from Document A to B back to C is definitely broken in Libre Office in the manner 
> described by Spencer.
>
> The opening of either Document A or Document B in Word 2010 produces a terrible result where the 4 
> columns are longer and flow at their bottoms onto a second page.
>
> This is so bad I despair of doing any further isolation.
>
>   - Dennis
>
> ANALYSIS DETAILS
>
> A. Document A - The ODT from Spencer. In LO 3.3.2 I see 4 columns, each 1.5" wide, with about 0.5" between.  
> The Format | Columns dialog reports 1.42" with 0.70" spacing and AutoWidth is selected.
>
> B. Document B - The Word 27-2000 format DOC from Document A via Libre Office, by Spencer
>
> C. Document C - The ODT file that reflects what is seen when Document B is opened in Libre Office.
>
> When I open Document A in Word 2010, I see the problem that NoOp reported, concerning a blank column showing 
> up.  There is also an error message about "Drawn Objects and Text Boxes 1."  I also see that there 
> is a second page having 4 more columns (the 4th column is empty).  It appears that the columns stretch 
> vertically down onto the second page.  That is, there are only 4 columns but each column is two pages long, 
> and the top of the second column is all blank, so its content only appears on the second page.  There are 
> also columns whose content image flows off the bottom of the page and is chopped off.
>
> When I open Document B in Word 2010, What I see is almost the same as when opening Document A in 
> Word, but the B view has a duplicate title over one of the figures of the Financial Industry 
> Profits graph in column 2.
>
> Document C in LibreOffice is now 2 pages because the column sizes are screwed up, leading to 4 
> columns on the first page and a fifth column on the second page.
>
> There's no point in making a Document X because I have no means to obtain a correct version in Word 
> to try saving back.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NoOp [mailto:glgxg@sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 15:09
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?
>
> On 09/11/2011 11:06 AM, Spencer Graves wrote:
> > Another example:
> >
> >
> > 1.  Download
> > "http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/resources/flyers/noCreditCd-bookmark20110306.odt";.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2.  Open in LibreOffice 3.4.3.  Save as MS Word 97 *.doc format.
> >
> >
> > 3.  Close, then reopen the *.doc version:  When I did this now under
> >   Windows 7, this changed the widths of the columns had changed and
> > with it the column breaks, etc.  I checked Format ->  Page ->  Columns:
> > *.odt showed from Autowidth with columns = 1.42, space = 0.70;  *.doc
> > had columns = 2.13, space = 0.70.  The numbers do not make sense to
> > me, but the visual change is clear.  I noticed this problem with an
> > earlier version of LibreOffice 3.4 and I think also with Open Office
> > 3.3.
> ...
>
> I tested as per the above, and indeed LO does save the .doc with
> modified column widths. I tested by saveas in LO 3.3.3 and then opened
> the .doc with:
>
> LO 3.3.3 (linux)
> LO 3.4.3 (linux)
> OOo 3.2.1 (go-oo build - Ubuntu linux)
> OOo 3.2.0 (Windows)
> MSO Word97 (yes I have MSO97 on an VirtuaBox Win2K install)
>
> The worst/more serious issue is that in MSO Word97 blank second column
> is inserted/shown. This means that the document renders only 3 populated
> columns rather than 4. Screenshot is here:
>
> http://imageshack.us/f/841/screenshotwin2kprorunni.png/
>
> So, you've a valid bug to report. Check to see if one hasn't already
> been filed before filing yours. Start a new thread regarding the problem
> when you've done that and I'll be glad to contribute/add to the bug
> report with my tests/screenshots.


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