Re: R: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ideas wanted for "How we're different" part of new LibreOffice website

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Met vriendelijke groet,
With kind regards,
Boudi van Vlijmen.

*Because email is an old and insecure first generation internet protocol we
will, **in time,  stop** to use email. If you want to contact us and are
not known with us, you can use the web contact form
<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeW6oPf3_HhJ6P_ONNCAVy7CJNSmga7WX4ln2CgAxZB6ycfzg/viewform>.
If you are known with us you can use our signal account
<https://www.signal.org/> or* RCS
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services> *to chat, or we
share an cloud environment.*
===
Omdat e-mail een oud en onveilig internetprotocol van de eerste generatie
is, zullen we op termijn stoppen met het gebruik van e-mail. Als u contact
met ons wilt opnemen en niet bij ons bekend bent, kunt u het
contactformulier
<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeW6oPf3_HhJ6P_ONNCAVy7CJNSmga7WX4ln2CgAxZB6ycfzg/viewform>
gebruiken. Als u bij ons bekend bent, kunt u ons signal
<https://www.signal.org/>-account of RCS
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services> gebruiken om te
chatten, of we delen een uitwisseling omgeving.


Op do 30 dec. 2021 om 07:56 schreef Clocked Modular <boudi@clocked.eu>:

> By the way,
>
> Gnome uses Rocket.chat.
>
> Met vriendelijke groet,
> With kind regards,
> Boudi van Vlijmen.
>
> *Because email is an old and insecure first generation internet protocol
> we will, **in time,  stop** to use email. If you want to contact us and
> are not known with us, you can use the web contact form
> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeW6oPf3_HhJ6P_ONNCAVy7CJNSmga7WX4ln2CgAxZB6ycfzg/viewform>.
> If you are known with us you can use our signal account
> <https://www.signal.org/> or* RCS
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services> *to chat, or
> we share an cloud environment.*
> ===
> Omdat e-mail een oud en onveilig internetprotocol van de eerste generatie
> is, zullen we op termijn stoppen met het gebruik van e-mail. Als u
> contact met ons wilt opnemen en niet bij ons bekend bent, kunt u het
> contactformulier
> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeW6oPf3_HhJ6P_ONNCAVy7CJNSmga7WX4ln2CgAxZB6ycfzg/viewform>
> gebruiken. Als u bij ons bekend bent, kunt u ons signal
> <https://www.signal.org/>-account of RCS
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services> gebruiken om
> te chatten, of we delen een uitwisseling omgeving.
>
>
> Op do 30 dec. 2021 om 07:48 schreef Clocked Modular <boudi@clocked.eu>:
>
> > Ravi,
> >
> > You are right about signal being a centralized service.
> > Is Jabber encrypted? Is there a federated and encrypted alternative for
> > Signal?
> >
> > Met vriendelijke groet,
> > With kind regards,
> > Boudi van Vlijmen.
> >
> > *Because email is an old and insecure first generation internet protocol
> > we will, **in time,  stop** to use email. If you want to contact us and
> > are not known with us, you can use the web contact form
> > <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeW6oPf3_HhJ6P_ONNCAVy7CJNSmga7WX4ln2CgAxZB6ycfzg/viewform>.
> > If you are known with us you can use our signal account
> > <https://www.signal.org/> or* RCS
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services> *to chat, or
> > we share an cloud environment.*
> > ===
> > Omdat e-mail een oud en onveilig internetprotocol van de eerste generatie
> > is, zullen we op termijn stoppen met het gebruik van e-mail. Als u
> > contact met ons wilt opnemen en niet bij ons bekend bent, kunt u het
> > contactformulier
> > <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeW6oPf3_HhJ6P_ONNCAVy7CJNSmga7WX4ln2CgAxZB6ycfzg/viewform>
> > gebruiken. Als u bij ons bekend bent, kunt u ons signal
> > <https://www.signal.org/>-account of RCS
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services> gebruiken om
> > te chatten, of we delen een uitwisseling omgeving.
> >
> >
> > Op wo 29 dec. 2021 om 21:30 schreef Ravi Dwivedi <ravi@ravidwivedi.in>:
> >
> > > On 28/12/21 3:32 pm, Clocked Modular wrote:
> > >
> > >  > I recommend integrating Signal into LibreOffice rather than email. We
> > >  > should look at Google and Apple for what the market is doing. Not the
> > > old
> > >  > dinosaurs like IBM and Microsoft are pointing the way, but they are.
> > >
> > > You are recommending integrating something which is centralized and in
> > > control of one single entity(Signal) rather than something which is
> > > decentralized and federated(email).
> > >
> > > We can integrate matrix/xmpp/IRC chats rather than Signal. As far as the
> > > matter of convenience or registering via phone number is concerned,
> > > Quicksy https://quicksy.im/ can be used which is a part of XMPP family.
> > > People who want convenience can use Quicksy and register via phone
> > > number, while others like me who don't want to register via phone number
> > > can register on another xmpp service(or they can have their own server)
> > > and still talk to Quicksy users.
> > >
> > > Signal maybe good for now but we cannot guarantee it will continue to be
> > > as good. It is effectively a lock-in, which is a problem of
> > > centralization. In future if the Signal service gets compromised(like
> > > change of the owner of the company might change their values or they
> > > might change something about Signal that you do not agree with), nobody
> > > bothers to switch.
> > >
> > > Quicksy is a brilliant hack which offers both convenience and freedom.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ravi Dwivedi
> > > https://ravidwivedi.in/
> > > GPG Keys-> https://ravidwivedi.in/files/ravidwivedi.asc
> > >
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