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On 2013-07-17 07:28, Tom Davies wrote:
Have you used Google-docs recently?  Last i heard, and that was
just a month or so ago, Google-docs stopped allowing people to use
ODF.

The speculation around this is enough to not use or favor use of such
SaaS (software as service) offerings, and in general any non-free
software. You can't be sure this won't disappear and recent history
with Google products that support free open standards gives every
indication it will.

Campaigning for ODF file formats while leaving aside considerations
for software freedom is not coherent, IMO, and that is why such a
campaign without an additional focus on software freedom and web
autonomy can't work.

- From http://pdfreaders.org/:
"Other proprietary alternatives to Adobe's PDF reader also exist, but
like it, their internal working is a trade secret and these programs
do not respect your right to control your own privacy and data."

In fact I am a bit surprised that there aren't malware offerings yet
that include ODF reading "capabilities". That will be an interesting
vector of attack when it's implemented.

FSF supports ODF aswell as supporting LibreOffice and TDF.  They
are separate issues though.  Part of their campaign for ODF
includes the crucial point that it can be used (or is even "the
native format" of) quite a large range of different products.

I couldn't find references to what you imply.

The FSF campaign focuses on free software supports ODF and
specifically encourages to reject *any* documents created with
Microsoft and iWork:
https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument
https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/reject

No mention anywhere of any advantages of ODF being supported by
"popular" non-free software, whatever that may mean.

Perhaps the only valid reason to use such SaaS and non-free software
may be when transitioning to free software, IMO.

If LibreOffice marketing can find an angle to that, it may be possible
to remain coherent while making a valid argument about why resources
are dedicated to non-free platforms at all.

Cheers,

Fabian


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Fabián Rodríguez
http://fsf.magicfab.ca
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