Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Campaign for ODF file formats?

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi :)
> If we were to target certain companies to try to "get them onboard" with
> ODF then it might be good to start with our own "supporters".  Low hanging
> fruit should be easier, right?  Google-docs doesn't allow people to use
> ODF!!  Actually i think ODF usage has improved quite a bit now that MS
> Office supports it.  It's really odd to have Google as one of the remaining
> barriers!
>
> I am not the biggest fan of Google, but in all fairness ODF is supported
by Google. You can open and edit ODT files. And ODS files.
As for ODP files I can't comment I never made slides on Google, I prefer
Impress.



> I think quite a few people do "Ask websites that provide editable files in
> Word/Excel/PowerPoint to alternately or additionally provide versions in an
> ODF format." and it might be good to let such people know that there are
> groups they could join that might help them be more effective.  OASIS and
> the FSF are 2 such organisations that would be great to promote to TDF's
> mailing lists.  An announcement now might build-up momentum.  The timing
> would be about perfect right now.
>
> FSF supports LibreOffice as a free software, so it would be great.
OASIS is the backer of the OpenDocument Format (I prefer to use the long
name).


> Regards from
> Tom :)


Other notes:
Other efforts can be done with governments.
For example NATO has adopted ODF as an international file standard, but not
all member countries have this standard themselves.
ODF is also ISO.


Cheers from Montreal
Immanuel


> > ________________________________
> > From: Charles-H. Schulz <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>
> > To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 9:59
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Campaign for ODF file formats?
> >
> >
> > Hello Robinson,
> >
> > Le Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:29:10 -0400,
> > Robinson Tryon <bishop.robinson@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> > > The PDF Readers campaign[1] recently contacted LibreOffice and asked
> > > us to promote the use of Free Software readers for PDF file formats.
> > > We had a brief discussion[2] on the website mailing list, and I had
> > > the idea that it might be helpful for LibreOffice if we or the FSFE
> > > ran a similar campaign for ODF.
> > >
> > > There are several directions such a campaign could take; here are some
> > > of my first thoughts:
> > >
> > > 1) Promote the use of standardized icons for ODF files, both when
> > > listing files for download, or when listing system
> > > capabilities/allowed upload formats.
> > >
> > > (Question: Is there a standardized set of icons for ODF files?)
> >
> >
> > There was a big debate a long time ago and the answer was that it would
> > not really work.
> >
> > > 2) Promote the use of Free Software for reading/writing ODF file
> > > formats.
> >
> >
> > I assume you're familiar with the Document Freedom Day? We participate
> > to it too. But at the risk of playing the devil's advocate, we promote
> > the use of open standards and ODF, however, promoting the use of Free
> > Software for ODF file goes exactly against the initial purpose: open
> > standards are open to everyone, even proprietary software. That's their
> > value and their importance.
> >
> > > 3) Ask websites that provide ODF files to link to our list of
> > > ODF-compatible Free Software.
> >
> > our list --> you may rather want to have them link to the wikipedia
> > entry on ODF.
> >
> > > Following the concept of the PDF Readers campaign, we could get a
> > > domain like 'odf-software.org' and provide HTML and campaign
> > > badges/icons to make it trivial to link to the site.
> >
> >
> > Yes, but.... why should it be up to us? It could be up to the OASIS
> > Consortium and other movements to take care of that.  I sound reluctant
> > here not because I'm not interested but because it's very important to
> > realize that we are an implementor of ODF. ODF as such is vendor
> > neutral and while we ought to push the use of  ODF we cannot "take
> > over" the promotion of ODF.
> > > 4) Ask websites that provide editable files in Word/Excel/PowerPoint
> > > to alternately or additionally provide versions in an ODF format.
> >
> >
> > Preaching to the choir :-) Actually Wikipedia / Wikimedia already
> > provide the ability to create ODF documents based on a collection of
> > articles.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Charles.
> >
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > --R
> > >
> > > [1] http://pdfreaders.org/
> > > [2] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/msg11433.html
> >
> >
> >
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