Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Spanish translations and suggested correction [was: burbuja]

Sorry, but there is no "passive voice" in the sentence, and it is not 
even possible to create it from the verb fallar.

passive voice would be: Actualización no fue encontrada or no ha sido 
encontrada.

"Comprobación
> de las actualizaciones ha fallado." has style problems (it's a too
> literal translation from english, and uses passive voice, which spanish
> should avoid whenever possible), and "No se encontró ninguna
> actualización."


Santiago Bosio wrote:
> El 19/01/11 16:22, tonda kavalec escribió:
> > Hola, estoy de acuerdo con vos, lo mejor sería:
> >
> > No se encontró ninguna actualización.
> >
> >
> > Xuacu wrote:
> > > El miércoles, 19-xineru-2011 a les 13:21 +0100, Andras Timar escribió:
> > >
> > > > > (12:37:51 PM) burbuja: Checking for an update failed
> > > > > (12:38:08 PM) burbuja: string
> > > > > (12:38:25 PM) burbuja: the correct translation would be: Checking for
> > > > > an update failed. = Comprobación de las actualizaciones ha fallado.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Andras
>
> Hi all,
>
> First of all, currently I don't see the need for an es_AR specific
> translation because:
>
> 1) We try to keep a neutral spanish translation (and yet there's too
> much entries to be corrected), in order to be used by all 20 spanish
> locales (yes, there are too much of them!), this involves avoiding
> specific tenses, the argentinian "voseo" used on some locales of Central
> and South America, and the tenses corresponding to the second plural
> form "vosotros" used only at Spain. There are, however some terms that
> have some conflicts like the translation of 'file', because spanish
> people (from Spain) prefer the translation 'fichero', and all others are
> used to translate it 'archivo'.
>
> 2) Most important, we don't have that many collaborators to be able to
> maintain two separate translations, even if both share the vast majority
> of the strings.
>
> Regarding the correction sent by burbuja, I can confirm that yes, it is
> horribly translated, but one problem arises here: the string is found on
> OOo's Pootle, not in LibO specific strings. It was corrected already on
> OOo's Pootle server like this: "Falló la búsqueda de actualizaciones."
> Both proposed translations were not very suitable, because "Comprobación
> de las actualizaciones ha fallado." has style problems (it's a too
> literal translation from english, and uses passive voice, which spanish
> should avoid whenever possible), and "No se encontró ninguna
> actualización." doesn't represents what the english string states (it's
> too liberal, because the application failed when searching for updates,
> and the translation implies that the search succeded, but no update was
> found, and there's another string for that situation).
>
> Best regards,
>
> Santiago


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