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I agree – while it may be not possible to guarantee that a "official"
variant will be fixed in time, it would make sense to have one version
which is the "standard" so that efforts can be focused.

– It might be hard to consider all variants all the time when doing
changes, same would go for usability tests.
– And if the notbookbar becomes standard or at least LO gets a "switch
to notebookbar" button, there needs to be a version that appears.
Otherwise we let the user make a decision hard to take (what does each
option do?). We are in a better position to at least determine what is
most useful most of the time.


Am 29.03.2018 um 15:36 schrieb Pedro Rosmaninho:
Considering that the Notebookbar is maturing and reaching a maturity point
where it is stable, it would be interesting if there was an official UX
team variant developed and improved upon by everyone here. It wouldn't have
to be the default UI, but something that the UX team would answer to bugs
and fix them.

The variants included by default with LO should be supported and fixed by
the UI team. Otherwise there'll be a bunch of bug reports about something
that is not officially supported.

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 2:27 PM, Heiko Tietze <>

On 29.03.2018 15:04, Pedro Rosmaninho wrote:
Can I just ask one small thing that I have doubts on?
Is there no "official" UI design team Notebookbar option?

The contextual group variant has a foundation [1] but there is nothing
specific for the other variants, which is bad for transparency and
testability. And I have no other idea how to tackle the "official" aspect.


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