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I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I read this.
but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to understand.
probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the hole thing. 

Definitely. I don't see dropdown lists as being an ideal means of picking a color for a multitude 
of reasons. 1) There are a lot of colors, and scrolling through a long list is tedious. 2) You can 
only see a small selection at any given time, making it harder to compare two colors. 3) It's 
difficult to guess where the colors are, as they're in no real logical order for the end user. 4) 
Lack of customization. 5) It's just not the right interface. Art programs use palates for a reason.

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On Friday, July 15, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote:


I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I read this.
but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to understand.
probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the hole thing.

For all the user cares, a simplified image just showing the page, the

general toolbar area, and so on would probably be sufficient



I think that this is a good idea we could make different pages for what
colors the user is choosing at that time. so when the user is choosing the
page Header and page Footer it shows them what they will look like.

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Christopher Lee
<gunboatdebater@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdebater@gmail.com)>wrote:


I don't think it would be that hard to do a preview-- you wouldn't even
need to have it be completely representative. For all the user cares, a
simplified image just showing the page, the general toolbar area, and so on
would probably be sufficient-- and it would be no harder to implement than
an apply button from a programming perspective (probably simpler,
actually!). I'm not saying Apply is bad, but the dialogue for options right
now is kind of huge, especially for tight screens.

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On Thursday, July 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Andrew Pullins wrote:




I like the idea that the colors and them be a "live preview" it will

just

be some time before that is implemented it sounds complicated. but till
then I think that the Apply button will work nicely.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM, RGB ES <rgb.mldc@gmail.com (mailto:rgb.mldc@gmail.com) 
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rgb.mldc@gmail.com (mailto:rgb.mldc@gmail.com))> wrote:



2011/7/15 Christopher Lee <gunboatdebater@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdebater@gmail.com) 
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gunboatdebater@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdebater@gmail.com))>:

Ricardo,


Already possible: Tools → Options → LibreOffice → Appearance →

change

"Application background" from "Default" to your preferred colour.

If

you need a different colour define a new one under Tool → Options →
LibreOffice → Colors: your new colour will be available when you
change the background.

It may already be possible, it's fairly deep in the menu trees for

someone trying to do something simple. It's also not equipped with a

live

preview or any semblance of an attempt at matching color schemes, and

the

color picker is kind of dated/ugly (choose from a dropdown list? A

color?

Out of some forty or fifty sets? Not a good idea!). I think Alex is

just

suggesting that 1) We could change the default, which is sensible, and

2) At

least make it more apparent.

The whole LibO's colour management needs a rewrite, I think that
everyone agrees with that. IMHO, without a proper way to select AND
define colours, the "already possible" solution is the only possible
answer... we can talk for hours on end about how
difficult/deep/whatever the options are, but I think we need to
discuss first of all about the colour palette: only then we will be
able to discuss how to use those colours.
For a "live preview" I think it is enough (1) to extend the "Apply"
button we see on style management since 3.4 to the Option dialogue.

(1) In the mathematical sense of the word: I have no idea how
difficult it is to add the Apply button there, but I'm sure it is
enough to solve the problem, so it is a "Sufficient condition"... :)

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