Re: [libreoffice-design] [proposal] Dark application background

i translated it, and added a screenshot of the old dialog, so you can see what would be the 
changes. http://http://i.imgur.com/zhZSv.png

the idea is, that you first select in general what you want to change (General, HTML Document, 
Spreadsheet etc.) from the the drop down menu and than  you choose the specific part whom's color 
you want to change.

so if you want to change the application background, you would select "General" » "Application 
background". If you wan to change the color of the keyword highlighting, you select "HTML Document" 
» "Keyword highlighting" and select a color.

A color-picker like this would also be nice for adding colors or other color-dialogs in LibO, i 
think im going to create a wiki page about this topic.



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I pretty much got the what it said  but if it will help other people who
read this. but it is not that hard to use translate.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Christopher Lee
<gunboatdebater@gmail.com>wrote:

> If needed, I can translate the text and reupload the image.  My German's
> not
> fantastic but there's nothing out of my range on this screenie.
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Andrew Pullins <android2772@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > > maybe like this? http://i.imgur.com/LHvxp.png
> >
> >
> > wow this is grate, I don't know what it all says but thank you Google
> > translate. so would you click the drop down bar that says Application
> > Backg... and choose things like page color,  margin outline color ect.
> And
> > the general would be things like, Tool Bars, Headers, Footers, and other
> > things.  its better than what I was imagined when it was suggested.
> >
> > I think that the second option is good. It makes it so that you can
> select
> > exactly what you would want.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Christopher Lee
> > <gunboatdebater@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Ich finde dass ziemlich super!  Und deine Emglisch ist auch ganz gut.
> ;)
> > > Okay, now that we've established that my Grammatik is not up to snuff,
> > your
> > > mockup looks really good.  I'm not entirely sold on the second row
> > (General
> > > > > Application Background), but it's clear and useful.
> > >
> > > I am surprised that you didn't find it-- even in German, I found the
> > option
> > > relatively quickly. Then again, I had prior knowledge and some German
> to
> > > help.  But the options dialogue as a whole could really use some love.
> > >
> > > Christopher Lee
> > > Executive Director
> > > Champion Debate
> > >
> > > On Jul 15, 2011, at 2:59 AM, Alex B <list.3blz@yahoo.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Since i'm using OOo/libO for almost 2 years now, and never found the
> > > option to change the application background color, this can mean two
> > things:
> > > > I. Something is wrong with me.
> > > > II. Something is wrong with the options dialog.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (in my defence, it's way harder to find in german, than in english)
> > > >
> > > > I took a deeper look at the options dialog and i must say, it's quite
> > > confusing sometimes, but thats an other topic.
> > > > I think, the whole apperance options would be easier to use if:
> > > >
> > > > - The apperance dialog is more prominent.
> > > > - A view color schemes are included in the default installation.
> > > > - There is a small live-preview.
> > > >
> > > > maybe like this? http://i.imgur.com/LHvxp.png
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > And while I agree that it's not an art program, it's also fair to
> make
> > > this comparison considering how many colors are offered in the
> > LibreOffice
> > > options dialogue. We can deal with dropdown menus for changing font
> > colors
> > > since most people use a >limited selection anyway (of course, with a
> > Shore
> > > More . . . along the way), but there must be over a hundred offered in
> > those
> > > dropdown lists.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Christopher Lee
> > > > > Executive Director
> > > > > Champion Debate
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, July 15, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > this is not a Art program. but I see what you mean, palates are
> grate.
> > I
> > > > > am working on a new UI right now, and will be uploading my ideas in
> a
> > > few
> > > > > days... or maybe tomorrow. hope to get some feed back from everyone.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Christopher Lee
> > > > > <gunboatdebater@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdebater@gmail.com)>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I
> read
> > > this.
> > > > > > > but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to
> > understand.
> > > > > > > probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the
> hole
> > > > > > thing.
> > > > > > Definitely. I don't see dropdown lists as being an ideal means of
> > > picking a
> > > > > > color for a multitude of reasons. 1) There are a lot of colors, and
> > > > > > scrolling through a long list is tedious. 2) You can only see a
> small
> > > > > > selection at any given time, making it harder to compare two
> colors.
> > 3)
> > > It's
> > > > > > difficult to guess where the colors are, as they're in no real
> > logical
> > > order
> > > > > > for the end user. 4) Lack of customization. 5) It's just not the
> > right
> > > > > > interface. Art programs use palates for a reason.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Christopher Lee
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> > > > > > Champion Debate
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Friday, July 15, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I
> read
> > > this.
> > > > > > > but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to
> > understand.
> > > > > > > probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the
> hole
> > > > > > thing.
> > > > > > > For all the user cares, a simplified image just showing the page,
> > the
> > > > > > > > general toolbar area, and so on would probably be sufficient
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think that this is a good idea we could make different pages for
> > > what
> > > > > > > colors the user is choosing at that time. so when the user is
> > choosing
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > page Header and page Footer it shows them what they will look
> like.
> > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Christopher Lee
> > > > > > > <gunboatdebater@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdebater@gmail.com
> )>wrote:
> > > > > > > > I don't think it would be that hard to do a preview-- you
> wouldn't
> > > even
> > > > > > > > need to have it be completely representative. For all the user
> > cares,
> > > a
> > > > > > > > simplified image just showing the page, the general toolbar area,
> > and
> > > > > > so on
> > > > > > > > would probably be sufficient-- and it would be no harder to
> > implement
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > an apply button from a programming perspective (probably simpler,
> > > > > > > > actually!). I'm not saying Apply is bad, but the dialogue for
> > options
> > > > > > right
> > > > > > > > now is kind of huge, especially for tight screens.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Christopher Lee
> > > > > > > > Executive Director
> > > > > > > > Champion Debate
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thursday, July 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Andrew Pullins wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I like the idea that the colors and them be a "live preview" it
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > be some time before that is implemented it sounds complicated.
> but
> > > > > > till
> > > > > > > > > then I think that the Apply button will work nicely.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM, RGB ES <rgb.mldc@gmail.com
> > (mailto:
> > > rgb.mldc@gmail.com) (mailto:
> > > > > > rgb.mldc@gmail.com (mailto:rgb.mldc@gmail.com)) (mailto:
> > > > > > > > rgb.mldc@gmail.com (mailto:rgb.mldc@gmail.com))> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 2011/7/15 Christopher Lee <gunboatdebater@gmail.com (mailto:
> > > gunboatdebater@gmail.com) (mailto:
> > > > > > gunboatdebater@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdebater@gmail.com))
> (mailto:
> > > > > > > > gunboatdebater@gmail.com (mailto:gunboatdebater@gmail.com))>:
> > > > > > > > > > > Ricardo,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Already possible: Tools → Options → LibreOffice → Appearance
> →
> > > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Application background" from "Default" to your preferred
> > > > > > colour.
> > > > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > > > > > you need a different colour define a new one under Tool →
> > > > > > Options →
> > > > > > > > > > > > LibreOffice → Colors: your new colour will be available when
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > change the background.
> > > > > > > > > > > It may already be possible, it's fairly deep in the menu trees
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > someone trying to do something simple. It's also not equipped
> > with
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > live
> > > > > > > > > > preview or any semblance of an attempt at matching color
> schemes,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > color picker is kind of dated/ugly (choose from a dropdown
> list?
> > A
> > > > > > > > color?
> > > > > > > > > > Out of some forty or fifty sets? Not a good idea!). I think
> Alex
> > is
> > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > suggesting that 1) We could change the default, which is
> > sensible,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > 2) At
> > > > > > > > > > least make it more apparent.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The whole LibO's colour management needs a rewrite, I think
> that
> > > > > > > > > > everyone agrees with that. IMHO, without a proper way to select
> > AND
> > > > > > > > > > define colours, the "already possible" solution is the only
> > > > > > possible
> > > > > > > > > > answer... we can talk for hours on end about how
> > > > > > > > > > difficult/deep/whatever the options are, but I think we need to
> > > > > > > > > > discuss first of all about the colour palette: only then we
> will
> > be
> > > > > > > > > > able to discuss how to use those colours.
> > > > > > > > > > For a "live preview" I think it is enough (1) to extend the
> > "Apply"
> > > > > > > > > > button we see on style management since 3.4 to the Option
> > dialogue.
> > > > > > > > > > (1) In the mathematical sense of the word: I have no idea how
> > > > > > > > > > difficult it is to add the Apply button there, but I'm sure it
> is
> > > > > > > > > > enough to solve the problem, so it is a "Sufficient
> condition"...
> > > > > > :)
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