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Hi Sigrid et al:

Le 2011-06-26 04:57, Sigrid Carrera a écrit :
Hi Marc,

On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 04:11:06 -0400
Marc Paré<marc@marcpare.com>  wrote:

Le 2011-06-26 01:38, Jean Hollis Weber a écrit :
On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 02:15 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
Hi Jean, Sigrid, all,

Jean Hollis Weber schrieb:
Jean wrote:
[...]

Well, as you say, there are different needs. The documentation's first
need should be that of print quality. If we are to submit our work to
LuLu's for print, the buyers should definitely get what we consider a
good representation of LibreOffice in type and screenshots. From an
aesthetic point of view, not sure if all in gray is too appealing for
users making use of reading our documentation online. It would be nice
if we got the same print from one of our greens as with a gray. But if
not, then gray should be it. BTW ... are the Lulu prints in colour or B/W?

For web and marketing teams, the green in the theme is pretty well
called for, if we are to keep with the brand colour. It identifies the
suite and lends itself well to brand recognition.

Would getting an opinion from someone involved at Lulu's be of any
additional help as far as the print quality? They may be able to give us
a little more input from the point of view of end product. I think we
could convince them to offer some opinion on the matter if we had some
samples for them to look at.

Hm, you're talking to the right person - Jean is the one who is involved with Lulu. :)

The books we offer through Lulu are printed in b/w, because colour would be much more expensive. We 
only have some colour on the title page, the rest is black and white and greyscale.

Then, we can all decide (vote). The "vocal people" and others can all
participate on the design decision being well informed on the options,
this, as per usual with design proposal and adoption decisions. We are
looking at:

* a theme that is easily installable by members
* a theme optimized for LibreOffice documentation screenshot print
* a theme suitable for web and marketing purposes

The theme does not necessarily need to be of the same configuration for
the two and may lead to 2 theme configurations.
That would be ok with me. But I would like to have a decision soon - I'd like to finish the first 
chapter with the screenshots. I took already 9 shots, but I'm hesitant to take more, if we decide 
for something different and I have to redo them again. :)
Is there anything missing?

BTW ... sorry I didn't participate on the testing of the samples as I
don't think that I would have a well enough informed opinion on the
print quality. I don't think my printer would give a good enough print
to compare.
No, I think you should have used your printer - print one version in colour and maybe another one 
in greyscale. See how those printouts look. I suspect, that this is what many people do (not 
everyone buys the books from Lulu) and not everyone likes reading from a computer screen. (I 
personally prefer reading from a printout instead of reading from my screen).


Sigrid

I've gone ahead and printed out the samples in B/W from these pages: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Eskroni/Tests ; http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Clearlooks_-_Green1_-_Liberation_Sans_11pt_bold_.png. These were printed out on my Samsung SCX-4200 laser 600dpi in B/W, unfortunately, I do not have a colour printer.

Of the samples that were printed, the ones that I found most legible, were the group 1 colours. From the printout on my computer they had the clearest contrast. Jean mentions that to her the following would be the best compromise (if we were to agree to this) (Note that the lines ending with a "?" just need to be confirmed.

* Clearlooks theme
* Green 2
* Libreration font sans, 11 pt. ?

What we did not discuss is the size of the screen capture and quality. Could anyone comment on this? The website and marketing team were following this protocol: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website#Contribution_and_Support

Cheers,

Marc


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