Re: [libreoffice-design] The future of design suggestions

we can host it here

www.libreofficedesign.weebly.com

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Sean White <runicpaladin@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am also +1ing the gallery idea, but eill we host it on the wiki or on a
> different site??
we can host it here

www.libreofficedesign.weebly.com



> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Scott Pledger
> <scottpledger2005@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > +1 on the gallery concept.
> >
> > I am more than willing to set it up and maintain it with the different UI
> > reworks posted here and I think we can even come up with some templates
> to
> > add it to the wiki's whiteboards.  What do you think?
> >
> >  I fully agree with the gallery idea, this is the best solution, because
> > > with
> > > that actually can see what is best, but as it is debated whether
> Microsoft
> > > is losing customers, and he knows how they will be returned because
> there
> > > designers decide how the program looks, rather than developers, who are
> > > paid
> > > to do as they are told, they do not care if toolbar does not fit the
> > > windows, MS is extra just because, and here the main problem is just
> that,
> > > so much debate about whether this bar that stands out from the system.
> > > And to ask customers taht say what it is better,  They do not care if
> > > ribbon
> > > deviate from the system, it is important that the program is good and
> > > special for us because nobody will be offended if on the new version
> > > ubuntu
> > > found a single program that sow their face with opportunities. After
> all,
> > > all is a habit.
> > >
> > > I fully agree with the gallery idea.
> > >
> > > 2011/6/20 Björn Balazs<b@lazs.de>
> > >
> > >  Hi all,
> > > > I am a little unsatisfied with the amount of individual threads going
> > > > into
> > > > the direction of: "We need a new interface for LibreOffice - and it
> needs
> > > > to
> > > > look linke this...".
> > > >
> > > > This is a Free Software Project. As a design team, we will not need to
> > > > convince ourselves about this need to change the GUI (we all agree on
> > > > that),
> > > > we will need to convince the people actually doing (and financing) it -
> > > > the
> > > > developers and the companies paying them.
> > > >
> > > > We will obviously not be able to do this by starting the same
> discussion
> > > > all
> > > > over and over again (e.g. Ribbon discussion). To convince the sponsors
> of
> > > > new
> > > > software code, we should never argue about personal opinions. A
> conflict
> > > > in
> > > > personal opinion is not solvable. And developers and managers of
> > > > sponsoring
> > > > companies willl have personal opinions as well. These kind of conflicts
> > > > will
> > > > predicitably end with those parts of the suggestions beeing realised
> that
> > > > the
> > > > sponsors like. This again will not satisfy anyone in the end (not us,
> not
> > > > the
> > > > users and not the sponsors).
> > > >
> > > > So, how can we make this more productive?
> > > >
> > > > Ideas are good, visualisations are even better. So let us find a way to
> > > > not
> > > > comment on these, but to collect them with the goal of easy comparision
> > > > with
> > > > eachother. A gallary of ideas and visualisations of the future LibO.
> > > >
> > > > We should then try to extract the dimensions these ideas differ on.
> > > > Knowing
> > > > these we can then again use user-centric methodologies to have the
> users
> > > > decide about what they like.
> > > >
> > > > With this data we will have much less trouble to convince the
> > > > code-sponsors
> > > > to go into a certain direction.
> > > >
> > > > So - the main point I am argueing for is a gallery of interface ideas.
> > > > Easy
> > > > to compare and on one spot. What do you think about this?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Björn
> > > >
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