Re: [libreoffice-design] The future of design suggestions

+1 on the gallery concept.

I am more than willing to set it up and maintain it with the different 
UI reworks posted here and I think we can even come up with some 
templates to add it to the wiki's whiteboards.  What do you think?
> I fully agree with the gallery idea, this is the best solution, because with
> that actually can see what is best, but as it is debated whether Microsoft
> is losing customers, and he knows how they will be returned because there
> designers decide how the program looks, rather than developers, who are paid
> to do as they are told, they do not care if toolbar does not fit the
> windows, MS is extra just because, and here the main problem is just that,
> so much debate about whether this bar that stands out from the system.
> And to ask customers taht say what it is better,  They do not care if ribbon
> deviate from the system, it is important that the program is good and
> special for us because nobody will be offended if on the new version ubuntu
> found a single program that sow their face with opportunities. After all,
> all is a habit.
>
> I fully agree with the gallery idea.
>
> 2011/6/20 Björn Balazs<b@lazs.de>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am a little unsatisfied with the amount of individual threads going into
> > the direction of: "We need a new interface for LibreOffice - and it needs
> > to
> > look linke this...".
> >
> > This is a Free Software Project. As a design team, we will not need to
> > convince ourselves about this need to change the GUI (we all agree on
> > that),
> > we will need to convince the people actually doing (and financing) it - the
> > developers and the companies paying them.
> >
> > We will obviously not be able to do this by starting the same discussion
> > all
> > over and over again (e.g. Ribbon discussion). To convince the sponsors of
> > new
> > software code, we should never argue about personal opinions. A conflict in
> > personal opinion is not solvable. And developers and managers of sponsoring
> > companies willl have personal opinions as well. These kind of conflicts
> > will
> > predicitably end with those parts of the suggestions beeing realised that
> > the
> > sponsors like. This again will not satisfy anyone in the end (not us, not
> > the
> > users and not the sponsors).
> >
> > So, how can we make this more productive?
> >
> > Ideas are good, visualisations are even better. So let us find a way to not
> > comment on these, but to collect them with the goal of easy comparision
> > with
> > eachother. A gallary of ideas and visualisations of the future LibO.
> >
> > We should then try to extract the dimensions these ideas differ on. Knowing
> > these we can then again use user-centric methodologies to have the users
> > decide about what they like.
> >
> > With this data we will have much less trouble to convince the code-sponsors
> > to go into a certain direction.
> >
> > So - the main point I am argueing for is a gallery of interface ideas. Easy
> > to compare and on one spot. What do you think about this?
> >
> > Best,
> > Björn
> >
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