Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Motif draft

Hi Ivan,

On 3/13/2011 8:39 AM, Ivan M. wrote:
> Hi Nik!
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Nik<nik@tdf.nikashsingh.com>  wrote:
> > Hi Ivan and Design!
> >
> > Today is the last day for adding motif proposals to the Wiki page;
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif
> >
> > I've added mine (at the bottom). And a very hasty description because I'm
> > running short on time.
> Aren't we all ... regardless, your designs are AMAZING. I just wish
> they were available in a higher resolution (wallpapers, anyone?).
Thanks and done! =)
You can grab the SVG from the wiki here (or on the motif page);
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:TDF_motifscatter_110310NS.svg
Just a note to all, I made it using Illustrator CS5 so if you run into 
compatibility problems with the file, just let me know.
> Overall, my favourite is Scatter (#6), but I'll go through them all
> with some feedback. If, at any point, my critique starts sounding
> overly negative, please keep in mind that I'm weighing all the options
> against Scatter, which I will fawn over in due time.
Ivan, your feedback is always on the money and I never take it 
personally because you're usually right.
> In comparison to MessyStack, OpenBook seems more organised and tidy; I
> don't feel that a messy stack of pages necessarily generates a
> positive feeling for LibreOffice, whereas OpenBook combines
> interesting effects as the transparent pages overlap and limits the
> strong greens to the top of the page. It looks more organised and
> focused. The only thing I don't like on OpenBook is the green used for
> the LibO logo; I would have it in white (with the document icon fill
> set to transparent) and I would suggest that it be left-aligned.
Yep, I was worried about the negative impression when I was making it, 
and not entirely happy with the result when it was done, for the same 
reasons.
> ApplicationCorners is nice, and although it links well to LibreOffice,
> the image on the top-left looks like a log on its own, and I think
> that sends the wrong message, particularly because there are a good
> number of companies that use similar logos. Compared to something more
> unique to LibO, like the document corners used wonderfully in Scatter,
> I think that, despite being lovely to look at, ApplicationCorners
> feels a little out of place with LibO's visual language.
Yeah I know =(, sadly the strength of this design comes as a 
logo-type-image rather than a motif, like you said.
So I totally agree, it just doesn't fit well.
> DocumentFlower is a great idea, but the document symbol with the cut
> off corner doesn't appear to lend itself well to this kind of motif -
> it feels unbalanced despite being perfectly arranged.
I think the lack of balance creates an interesting "tension" or 
"movement", but I can see where you're coming from.
This Design would need more work to be up to scratch. Which I won't 
pursue =)
And it is a bit simplistic.
> FoldedPage uses great light greens, but it's very abstract, which
> makes it seem a little incoherent/incongruous  (at least to my eyes).
> If a little order were to be imposed, I think it could work better.
Its a difficult balance between establishing the random (natural) and 
ordered (artificial) feeling on this one.
I think it has promise, but the balance would take time and whether that 
is worth attempting will depend on feedback from this list.
The current colours of this Design really hide its potential.
> And finally, we come to Scatter. One of many possible interpretations
> of this could be that it looks like something has been set free, and I
> think this fits really well with LibO as a community-driven FLOSS
> office suite.
I'm glad someone else gets the same "unleashed" feeling from this Design 
as I did =)
> I think this could work really well with alternating
> blues and greens in the scatter design (actually, it would work well
> with almost any color). At the moment, the scatter is also confined to
> a rectangular area, but it could be adapted to various shapes and
> arrangements for use on the website, start/welcome center, etc, and it
> would work really well with a minimalist look-and-feel. Subjectively,
> that's one of my favourite things about this design: it got me
> thinking about how it could be adapted and developed further into
> something great more than any of the others.
Good to hear! =)
> Phew, I'm all feedbacked-out. Once again, thank you Nik for this great
> set of proposals. If you could flick me a SVG copy of Scatter, I'd
> love to take a look at it and play around with the colors.
It's all yours. You may need to edit the colours to make it more 
vibrant. The greens I used in the file are from the branding colours and 
unfortunately, there is no strong saturated limey-yellow-green in that 
palette (the support colour is a radioactive green that just doesn't 
work well with the other greens). The shades of green here are too 
linear (in that they offer different /tones/ of the same /hue/). I think 
broader colours (that encroach into neighbouring hues) would certainly 
help, and create more realistic reflected-light effects in the artwork, 
but that's another matter.
> Regards,
> Ivan.
-Nik

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