Hi Christoph,
just a short note on the names...
Christoph Noack schrieb:
Hi Bernhard, all!
Am Mittwoch, den 02.03.2011, 23:00 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
[...]
In the LibO case, I'd go for "adding Libre" - you take?
(+1/-1/0)
Therefore I vote with +1.
But I'd prefer "LibreGreen 1" over "Libre Green 1", because without
the space "LibreGreen" is a name, while in "Libre Green" libre can
be understood as descriptive adjective.
True, but removing the whitespace makes it less readable ...
I don't think this is an important issue, as it should be a descriptive
name rather than a color accompanied by a leading adjective and a following
number.
We decided to call our product LibreOffice, even if Google finds more
"Libre Office" than "LibreOffice", this seems to be quite similar. I think
it is inconsistent and a neglected marketing chance, if we add a space
between "Libre" and the color.
But I'm not an UX-expert, so I have to believe you that people will not be
able to understand LibreGreen as easy as Libre Green.
originally, we had this kind of naming, but since we added more
colors, it became an issue to me - when I've created the palettes for
LibreOffice and Inkscape.
http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/10/united-colors-of-liberty.html
Looking at these colors, I find out, that I like the previous color names
better than the present ones:
Orange is not really orange - Marron has been more exact.
Yellow is not yellow at all - Ocher might be the right description.
To be consistent, we should use "LibreGreen Accent" instead of
"Green Accent" - OpenGrok shows the latter.
OpenGrok is okay, since I asked for that name when it got integrated
;-)
But the other colors seems to have been integrated with "Libre" - did you
do this on purpose?
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/extras/extras/source/palettes/libreoffice.soc
The Inkscape palette I use doesn't contain any "Libre", so they are
different.
But in future all the palettes (LibO, Inkscape, GIMP) will use the same
naming... :-)
[...]
2. The gray shades are missing in the table - these are not
necessarily part of the official branding palette, but very
helpful when working on documents (rationale: changing palettes
in LibO is still time consuming, so the basic colors should be
included).
I think we should define two grey values as "LibreGrey" (or
"LibreGray"). One should be the grey tone of the lighter part in
the greyscale logo. As it is the equivalent to "LibreGreen" (as
official LibO color "LibreGreen 1" might be called this way IMHO),
I'd call it "LibreGrey 1".
The name "Green 1" has some historic reasons, since - originally -
it was the darkest green. The "Green 0" was some mysterious
workaround to keep the name, since it already had been used
extensively. Thus, the number marks the "intensity" of the color.
To provide additional information, I've used the "Comment" section
in the spreadsheet table. If you look at the Inkscape palette, hover
the "LibreGreen 1" item and Inkscape will show "LibreGreen 1
(LibreOffice Main Color)".
Here it shows "Green 1 (LibreOffice Main Color)".
We should use this feature for the official grey too.
So for such kind of information, I propose to keep this kind of
naming scheme.[...]
If we include the basic colors in the palette, more grey values are
as important as the main colors.
True, that's what I've suggested - the LibreOffice color palette
available in the wiki does feature all these gray values; equally to
the Inkscape palette.
I've been wondering, if we should add plain colors (red, green, blue,
yellow, orange, violet) to the LibO palette too, because they might be used
for marking etc. We don't have red at all...
But on the other hand they don't fit with the LibreOffice colors, so I'd
avoid such a mixture.
What do you think?
I'll add the source code at the end of the mail
- for easier reference.
[...]
I don't know if a break is allowed in an .soc file, if so, I'd add one
behind the first entry: This would lead to better readability, as every
definition is shown in it's own line.
And didn't you vote for adding "Libre"? (Even if you want to keep it as
single word...)
If we agree on the dark grey , I'd like to add "(LibreOffice Color)" or
"LibreGrey 1" (or something similar) to the name.
And one more point:
While the default UI language is "English (USA)" the standard color palette
as well as your proposal use the British English spelling "Gray" instead of
"Grey".
Best regards
Bernhard
=== LibreOffice_Initial-Branding-Colors.soc ===
<ooo:color-table> <draw:color draw:name="Black"
draw:color="#000000"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 90%"
draw:color="#1A1A1A"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 80%"
draw:color="#333333"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 70%"
draw:color="#4D4D4D"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 60%"
draw:color="#666666"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 50%"
draw:color="#808080"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 40%"
draw:color="#999999"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 30%"
draw:color="#B3B3B3"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 20%"
draw:color="#CCCCCC"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 10%"
draw:color="#E6E6E6"/> <draw:color draw:name="Gray 5%"
draw:color="#F2F2F2"/> <draw:color draw:name="White"
draw:color="#FFFFFF"/> <draw:color draw:name="Green 0"
draw:color="#106802"/> <draw:color draw:name="Green 1 (LibreOffice
Main Color)" draw:color="#18A303"/> <draw:color draw:name="Green 2"
draw:color="#43C330"/> <draw:color draw:name="Green 3"
draw:color="#92E285"/> <draw:color draw:name="Green 4"
draw:color="#CCF4C6"/> <draw:color draw:name="Blue 0"
draw:color="#023F62"/> <draw:color draw:name="Blue 1"
draw:color="#0369A3"/> <draw:color draw:name="Blue 2"
draw:color="#1C99E0"/> <draw:color draw:name="Blue 3"
draw:color="#63BBEE"/> <draw:color draw:name="Blue 4"
draw:color="#AADCF7"/> <draw:color draw:name="Orange 0"
draw:color="#622502"/> <draw:color draw:name="Orange 1"
draw:color="#A33E03"/> <draw:color draw:name="Orange 2"
draw:color="#D36118"/> <draw:color draw:name="Orange 3"
draw:color="#F09E6F"/> <draw:color draw:name="Orange 4"
draw:color="#F9CFB5"/> <draw:color draw:name="Purple 0"
draw:color="#530260"/> <draw:color draw:name="Purple 1"
draw:color="#8E03A3"/> <draw:color draw:name="Purple 2"
draw:color="#C254D2"/> <draw:color draw:name="Purple 3"
draw:color="#DC85E9"/> <draw:color draw:name="Purple 4"
draw:color="#F2CBF8"/> <draw:color draw:name="Yellow 0"
draw:color="#876900"/> <draw:color draw:name="Yellow 1"
draw:color="#C99C00"/> <draw:color draw:name="Yellow 2"
draw:color="#E9B913"/> <draw:color draw:name="Yellow 3"
draw:color="#F5CE53"/> <draw:color draw:name="Yellow 4"
draw:color="#FDE9A9"/> <draw:color draw:name="Green Accent"
draw:color="#2CEE0E"/> <draw:color draw:name="Blue Accent"
draw:color="#00A0FC"/> <draw:color draw:name="Orange Accent"
draw:color="#FC5C00"/> <draw:color draw:name="Purple Accent"
draw:color="#E327FF"/> <draw:color draw:name="Yellow Accent"
draw:color="#FFD74C"/> </ooo:color-table>
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