Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: LibreOffice official color names

Hi Bernhard, all!

Am Mittwoch, den 02.03.2011, 23:00 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
[...]
> > In the LibO case, I'd go for "adding Libre" - you take? (+1/-1/0)
>
> Therefore I vote with +1.
>
> But I'd prefer "LibreGreen 1" over "Libre Green 1", because without the 
> space "LibreGreen" is a name, while in "Libre Green" libre can be 
> understood as descriptive adjective.

True, but removing the whitespace makes it less readable ... originally,
we had this kind of naming, but since we added more colors, it became an
issue to me - when I've created the palettes for LibreOffice and
Inkscape.
http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/10/united-colors-of-liberty.html

> To be consistent, we should use "LibreGreen Accent" instead of "Green 
> Accent" - OpenGrok shows the latter.

OpenGrok is okay, since I asked for that name when it got integrated ;-)

> > [...]
> >
> > 2. The gray shades are missing in the table - these are not necessarily
> > part of the official branding palette, but very helpful when working on
> > documents (rationale: changing palettes in LibO is still time consuming,
> > so the basic colors should be included).
>
> I think we should define two grey values as "LibreGrey" (or 
> "LibreGray"). One should be the grey tone of the lighter part in the 
> greyscale logo. As it is the equivalent to "LibreGreen" (as official 
> LibO color "LibreGreen 1" might be called this way IMHO), I'd call it 
> "LibreGrey 1".

The name "Green 1" has some historic reasons, since - originally - it
was the darkest green. The "Green 0" was some mysterious workaround to
keep the name, since it already had been used extensively. Thus, the
number marks the "intensity" of the color.

To provide additional information, I've used the "Comment" section in
the spreadsheet table. If you look at the Inkscape palette, hover the
"LibreGreen 1" item and Inkscape will show "LibreGreen 1 (LibreOffice
Main Color)".

So for such kind of information, I propose to keep this kind of naming
scheme.

> The greyscale logo uses a 50% grey level (#808080), and I'd like to keep it.
>
> But the darker part of the logo is black only in the basic logo.
> We already discussed the black issue several times, so I'd like to see a 
> "LibreGrey 0" to be used for the dark part of the colored and the 
> greyscale logo.
>
> In my eyes 80% grey (#333333) is dark enough to look distinct from the 
> lighter tone, but is recognized as "not black".
>
> We could add "LibreGrey 2" and "LibreGrey 3", but I don't think this is 
> necessary for the LibO palette.

Mmh, I got lost a bit ... if I understood it correctly, you discuss the
logo instead of the color palette to be included in / translated for
LibreOffice.

Concerning the former, the black is still fine for the Basic logo for
various reasons. Indeed, the Contemporary logo features the different
gray shadings (and is the only one as far as I remember).

> If we include the basic colors in the palette, more grey values are as 
> important as the main colors.

True, that's what I've suggested - the LibreOffice color palette
available in the wiki does feature all these gray values; equally to the
Inkscape palette. I'll add the source code at the end of the mail - for
easier reference.

> > Should this be filed as an
> > issue?
>
> We don't need an issue to decide about the content of the LibO palette. 
> But we probably will, when our decision will lead to an update on the 
> color palette inside LibO.

That's what I've meant :-)

Okay, so I summarize that (personal interpretation of the current state
of the discussion):
      * the LibreOffice color palette should contain all gray shadings
        (also available in the Inkscape palette)
      * the color names in the palettes should use "Libre"
      * for the sake of good readability, I'd like to keep a whitespace
        between "Libre" and the color name.

Cheers,
Christoph

=== LibreOffice_Initial-Branding-Colors.soc ===

<ooo:color-table>
<draw:color draw:name="Black" draw:color="#000000"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Gray 90%" draw:color="#1A1A1A"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Gray 80%" draw:color="#333333"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Gray 70%" draw:color="#4D4D4D"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Gray 60%" draw:color="#666666"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Gray 50%" draw:color="#808080"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Gray 40%" draw:color="#999999"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Gray 30%" draw:color="#B3B3B3"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Gray 20%" draw:color="#CCCCCC"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Gray 10%" draw:color="#E6E6E6"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Gray 5%" draw:color="#F2F2F2"/>
<draw:color draw:name="White" draw:color="#FFFFFF"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Green 0" draw:color="#106802"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Green 1 (LibreOffice Main Color)"
draw:color="#18A303"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Green 2" draw:color="#43C330"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Green 3" draw:color="#92E285"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Green 4" draw:color="#CCF4C6"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Blue 0" draw:color="#023F62"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Blue 1" draw:color="#0369A3"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Blue 2" draw:color="#1C99E0"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Blue 3" draw:color="#63BBEE"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Blue 4" draw:color="#AADCF7"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Orange 0" draw:color="#622502"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Orange 1" draw:color="#A33E03"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Orange 2" draw:color="#D36118"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Orange 3" draw:color="#F09E6F"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Orange 4" draw:color="#F9CFB5"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Purple 0" draw:color="#530260"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Purple 1" draw:color="#8E03A3"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Purple 2" draw:color="#C254D2"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Purple 3" draw:color="#DC85E9"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Purple 4" draw:color="#F2CBF8"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Yellow 0" draw:color="#876900"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Yellow 1" draw:color="#C99C00"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Yellow 2" draw:color="#E9B913"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Yellow 3" draw:color="#F5CE53"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Yellow 4" draw:color="#FDE9A9"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Green Accent" draw:color="#2CEE0E"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Blue Accent" draw:color="#00A0FC"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Orange Accent" draw:color="#FC5C00"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Purple Accent" draw:color="#E327FF"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Yellow Accent" draw:color="#FFD74C"/>
</ooo:color-table>


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