Re: [libreoffice-design] Well - no way around it - if you go to a show you need a disc

Hi Drew, *

drew schrieb:
> On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 23:15 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> > Hi Drew, *
> >
> > thanks for sharing :-)
> >
> > drew schrieb:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > A screen shot of the look:
> > >
> > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/d/de/NA-CommDVD-community_theme.png
> >
> > Looks quite common to me ;-)
> >
> > [...]
> > > Anyway - any strong objections to my using that header?
> >
> > Not from my side.
> >
> > I'm sure you kept the license (CC-by-sa-3.0) for the site,
>
> It's not to be a site, well, it is on a DVD and yes it is setup as a web
> site - but it (the image on my machine) is not going up as a site
> anywhere.

Ok - I just wanted to avoid licensing issues. You didn't include the 
footer of the page in your screenshot, so I had to guess...

> _and_
>
> It will be a site available via WiFi for those near the booth for 2 days
> - but past that, nope no site. (probably - if I remember to take the
> second router.*smile*)

This is a really good idea - I hope your router will be able to handle 
hundreds and thousands of connections... ;-)
> There is a separate, though related, work effort underway, where there
> is a site being use so that multiple people can see the progress - but
> that again is intended just as a disc ISO file - not as a live site -
> the LibreOfficeBox site in fact, is not the same to the iso image - at
> least with the latest copy of the iso that I could find.

IIRC the LibreOffice-Box site is a copy of the development area, so it 
might be more up-to-date than the last ISO.

But the team is (like all of us) just starting their work, so this might 
be different at the moment.

> [...]
>
> > and
> > design-wise it's not exactly the same as our website (IIRC this or a
> > very similar navigation has been used in the past).
>
> right - guess that would be the consequence of the line in the email
> about it being grafted on top of the libreoffiebox iso image files -
> that is the look of the 3.3.0.1-2_DVD image from a week ago, with as few
> changes as I can make. I did add more space above the logo, and the
> header might be a bit too big now...don't know, maybe.

If you don't want to move the "North American Community DVD" subline to 
the right hand side, I'd keep it that high.
> [...]
>
> Anyway when it's finished it will all be available - for anyone to do or
> not what they see fit with it.

Providing such a DVD at SCALE is just great - if people want to re-use 
it for other opportunities, this might be the basis for our distributor 
team...
> [didn't really change the license - BTW]
>
> but I digress the email was just about the Community
;-)
> > I for one would not mind the US marketing team using the logo with TDF
> > subline - as it is a community effort by an approved LibreOffice team.
>
> Well, maybe it is different in Germany, it may likely be so and perhaps
> precisely because of the pro-box teams success, but in the US lots of
> individuals maintained there on personal OO.o distro discs, many (that I
> knew of) where based on the iso images available from the OO.o site, but
> then folks rather fashioned a different UI to them - (people use for
> gifts mostly) - people are starting to work on that - given the talk on
> this list about what one can't do - the logo, the icons, lots of things
> - all needed policy I know - I'm trying to listen to what you ask for
> and to stick to it - to stay on the side of the trademark issues, the
> branding issues and have something at least pleasant to look at - and to
> get am acceptable baseline 'community branded' (meaning not TDF branded)
> iso image together for these folks to use a reference, and for my own
> use likely.

Long sentence - no way to reply to parts of it ;-)

I know about the different DVDs and designs mentioned on the global 
marketing list. If you want to share your design with them, the logo you 
used fits perfectly - and if the design will be reused by them, I'll be 
very happy.

I just wanted to point out, that an effort done by an officially 
approved community team can be seen differently than single person's 
distributions. My idea would be to invite them to become part of the 
team and (if licenses are compatible) integrate their additions to the 
community DVD. But this doesn't mean to be a necessary or the best 
solution ever...
> One OT item - Bernhard, This list lately has a lot of talk about people
> already doing harm to the brand - since I don't see much beyond the
> German team and the US team producing marketing pieces I take it that
> harm is coming from me, if that is so please

I don't think that you have been meant by such discussion (I really 
don't remember such a thread during the last weeks).

You probably remember that I commented a poster by you with regards to 
background of the logo - but this has been loooong ago.

(I didn't comment the present SCaLE poster - it looks as if you modified 
the logo highlights a bit, but for the single event this should be okay)

> - If you can tell me what I've done so far that is doing this - I can
> try to fix it. Are white backgrounds really that big a problem?

I don't understand the question. Can you point me to an example?

In my eyes a white background is the best for our logo.

And even if I see the positive aspects of a common green paper as a 
means for unique positioning, I prefer the clear and light impression of 
your work.
> - tell you the truth though I don't see it

Neither do I - perhaps anybody else here or on the marketing list...

Best regards

Bernhard

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