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On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 23:15 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
Hi Drew, *

thanks for sharing :-)

drew schrieb:


For the look and feel, the header in this case, the css and image files
making up the tdf theme in the box directory was cloned:


All working html pages use the community css and image files.

As part of this community theme a logo.

I did this today - so of course I used Bernhard's latest logo design.

I'm just going to upload the source and different .png exports. If you 
want to use a logo file without scaling, please wait a few hours...

ofcourse, added a tag line for this particular disc and adjusted
 > the #header section in the community/css/layout.css file.

A screen shot of the look:

Looks quite common to me ;-)


Anyway - any strong objections to my using that header?

Not from my side.

I'm sure you kept the license (CC-by-sa-3.0) for the site, 

It's not to be a site, well, it is on a DVD and yes it is setup as a web
site - but it (the image on my machine) is not going up as a site


It will be a site available via WiFi for those near the booth for 2 days
- but past that, nope no site. (probably - if I remember to take the
second router.*smile*)

There is a separate, though related, work effort underway, where there
is a site being use so that multiple people can see the progress - but
that again is intended just as a disc ISO file - not as a live site -
the LibreOfficeBox site in fact, is not the same to the iso image - at
least with the latest copy of the iso that I could find. I'm sure there
is a newer one being worked on, I've only used what I could find
mentioned on the discuss@de ML.

design-wise it's not exactly the same as our website (IIRC this or a 
very similar navigation has been used in the past).

right - guess that would be the consequence of the line in the email
about it being grafted on top of the libreoffiebox iso image files -
that is the look of the image from a week ago, with as few
changes as I can make. I did add more space above the logo, and the
header might be a bit too big now...don't know, maybe.

There is not enough time to translate all the pages in the
LibreOfficeBox, to state the obvious, what is being delivered via
the html pages is actually quite a different mix.

Anyway when it's finished it will all be available - for anyone to do or
not what they see fit with it.

[didn't really change the license - BTW]

but I digress the email was just about the Community 

I for one would not mind the US marketing team using the logo with TDF 
subline - as it is a community effort by an approved LibreOffice team.

Well, maybe it is different in Germany, it may likely be so and perhaps
precisely because of the pro-box teams success, but in the US lots of
individuals maintained there on personal OO.o distro discs, many (that I
knew of) where based on the iso images available from the OO.o site, but
then folks rather fashioned a different UI to them - (people use for
gifts mostly) - people are starting to work on that - given the talk on
this list about what one can't do - the logo, the icons, lots of things 
- all needed policy I know - I'm trying to listen to what you ask for
and to stick to it - to stay on the side of the trademark issues, the
branding issues and have something at least pleasant to look at - and to
get am acceptable baseline 'community branded' (meaning not TDF branded)
iso image together for these folks to use a reference, and for my own
use likely.

One OT item - Bernhard, This list lately has a lot of talk about people
already doing harm to the brand - since I don't see much beyond the
German team and the US team producing marketing pieces I take it that
harm is coming from me, if that is so please
- If you can tell me what I've done so far that is doing this - I can
try to fix it. Are white backgrounds really that big a problem?

- tell you the truth though I don't see it


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