Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice and Orca (WAS: Should Writer export taggedPDF and bookmarks by default?)

Hi :)
There is some help on how to get an STrace at the bottom of
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#How_to_get_strace_log_.28on_Linux.29

But the whole page could be difficult to follow
Regards from
Tom :)




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From: Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be>
To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 2 August, 2011 12:27:29
Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice and Orca (WAS: Should Writer 
export taggedPDF and bookmarks by default?)

Hi Jason, All,


At 02:18 31-7-2011, Jason White wrote:
> Tom Davies  <accessibility@global.libreoffice.org> wrote:
> > A lot of possibly easy wins, easy hacks, "low hanging fruit" or whatever 
> people
> > want to call them would be a huge advantage but it's worth posting about 
> larger
> > issues too even if you can't break them down into simpler problems.
>
> Using Orca with LibreOffice, it is relatively easy to cause LibreOffice to
> segfault.

I was not aware of the segfault problems; I have not tested LibreOffice with
Orca on Ubuntu (or any other Linux distro).


> For example, just to experiment with LibreOffice accessibility, I created a
> new document, typed some text, selected "styles and formatting" (F11),
> selected a header style, pressed enter and we crashed.

There are a few other LibreOffice bugs that mention Orca and crashes:
* Bug 36023 - LibreOffice writer crashes with Orca Screen Reader:
  "(...) Orca screen reader reads a portion of the complete text
  (when reading the whole document) and then Open/Libre office crashes
  with no warning or dialogue.
  As soon as trying to handle an object (such as an image) writer crashes
  immediately with no warning or dialogue. (...)"
  <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36023>
* Bug 31973 - When ATs listen for object:children-changed:add events, 
LibreOffice crashes:
  "(...) The impact of this is that Orca users are seeing frequent crashes
   when working on documents, especially those with bullets/numbers. (...)"
  <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31973>


> Orca developers had to work around a similar issue recently, discussed on the
> Orca list, with tables, which also caused segmentation faults in LibreOffice.

Is there a list of issues that cause crashes? Or even better, procedures to
reproduce the issues?


> Someone who actually needs LibreOffice and who has the time should install
> debug symbols and get stack traces.


Is there any guidance anywhere on how to do this?

Best regards,

Christophe


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