Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [WIKI] WYSIWYG editor

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> > Foswiki conversion extension for MediaWiki:
> > http://foswiki.org/Extensions/MediaWikiToFoswikiContrib
>
> if there's anything I'd like to avoid at ANY price, it's a migration to a
> new wiki. We make heavy use of MediaWiki extensions, and migrating that to
> another wiki will cost us MONTHS of work, in the worst case.

This was one of the major reasons behind not migrating the OOo wiki (a
few years ago).

Some things that people are maybe not considering when they say that
WYSIWYG editor is a make/break for the LibreOffice Wiki:

 - MediaWiki is not obscure.  This is the Wiki engine that drives
Wikipedia.  If "normal" people manage to contribute to Wikipeidia by
the millions, I'm sure that the same people are smart enough to handle
the exact same Wiki engine on the LibreOffice Wiki.

 - There are many extensions in use on the current MediaWiki that are
often not easily duplicated on a new Wiki engine.  A migration to a
new Wiki will mean that every page in the 3.3Gb of data will need to
be validated and in many cases rewritten - the migration tools cannot
(usually) handle the custom code syntax that is linked to the many
extensions in use.  These exceptions (on a huge number of pages) will
have to be manually migrated... page by page.

 - There is a MediaWiki extension for LibreOffice.  Why not promote
the use of that extension?  If it's not good enough, then it
should/could be tagged for improvement (GSOC maybe?).


> I'd rather prefer some developer looking into the code of the existing
> WYSIWYG extensions for MediaWiki to make it work with 1.21.

This is a much better option.  The issue is not that there is no
WYSIWYG editor, just that the currently available ones do not work
with the latest Wiki engine.  That's something that can be solved with
a LOT less effort than what would be required for a full on migration.

- As Florian noted (and linked), there is a new WYSIWYG editor in
development.  (works fine in Chrome on Linux by the way)

All this is not to say a migration is a bad idea... but you have to
realize the incredible amount of work this will require.  I think
Florian is being kind and underestimating the work by saying "MONTHS".

C.

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