Greetings,In regards to FOS (Free and Open Source) Wine. (I have no experience with the proprietary and $$$ CodeWeavers version.) About 14 years ago I tried to get Wine running on my Linux computer to support M$ Access and the many hours of time I invested getting my databases usable on Access. I failed. At that time, the Wine developers seemed to be focusing on windows-based games, not the M$ office programs. I could not get Access to run under that version of Wine. I ended up converting my Access databases to MySQL and have not looked back at wine or any M$ programs since. Admittedly, in the 14 intervening years, the Wine developers may have changed their focus from gaming and it could now support the M$ office programs. This is just a suggestion to beware and check it out to see if it works first before jumping to Wine and "burning your bridges".
Girvin Herr On 03/27/2018 05:53 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :) I heard that just one part of the British Government (the local councils?) 'had to' pay M$ 6 million to be able to keep using Xp for just 1 more year!! Presumably they are continuing to pay that annually because the cost of upgrading, and then continuing to run all their legacy programs. Apparently one part of the Dutch Government is doing something similar. Ironically if they moved to any Gnu&Linux or even Mac it is highly likely that their legacy apps would work for free(ish) through "WINE". For a relatively small amount CodeWeavers would give a greater level of certainty with that or/and employ some permanent devs "in house" to focus on whatever issues crop up with them - but that might involve increasing their local workforce which is politically complicated (especially if their work was then fed back into the OpenSource project. Most of us don't have 6 million in chump-change to throw away on projects shrouded in secrecy that have no foreseeable end-date - let alone one that has minimal investment in our countries future and for a product that is certain to be dropped at random over some profit-driven or political whim of a foreign organisation! Regards from Tom :) On 27 March 2018 at 00:09, toki <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:On 03/26/2018 07:56 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:I'm pretty sure "mainstream support" ended a few years ago. Quitewhat that means seems very unclear.It isn't that hard.If what I was told was true, in 2010, Microsoft was still providing Tier 3 support to a customer that used MS Dos 5.0, and a different customer that used Win95. (I suspect that in both cases, the support was a license fee for source code, and the paying customer did the bug fixes, etc. themselves.) As such, the precise meaning can change, depending upon circumstances.MAYBE unless they are a large multinational corporation or governmentcustomer. a) If you hadn't put the qualifier "government" in, I could have pointed you at one organization that has that. However, I suspect that Microsoft provides that support, more because to not do so will result in an unwinnable lawsuit, than because they want to. b) Microsoft has several tiers of support. In theory, individuals, SOHOs, and SMBs can purchase support for any tier. However, simple economics restricts Tier 3 to big governments and bigger corporations. This is the level at which bug fixes, etc. are dealt with ASAP.Long term support means just critical/security updates.The big issue with "long term support", is how "long term" is defined. Personally, I wouldn't call 18 months "long term", but marketing people apparently think so. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: email@example.com Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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