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Hi :)
I heard that just one part of the British Government (the local councils?)
'had to' pay M$ 6 million to be able to keep using Xp for just 1 more
year!! Presumably they are continuing to pay that annually because the cost
of upgrading, and then continuing to run all their legacy programs.
Apparently one part of the Dutch Government is doing something similar.

Ironically if they moved to any Gnu&Linux or even Mac it is highly likely
that their legacy apps would work for free(ish) through "WINE".  For a
relatively small amount CodeWeavers would give a greater level of certainty
with that or/and employ some permanent devs "in house" to focus on whatever
issues crop up with them - but that might involve increasing their local
workforce which is politically complicated (especially if their work was
then fed back into the OpenSource project.

Most of us don't have 6 million in chump-change to throw away on projects
shrouded in secrecy that have no foreseeable end-date - let alone one that
has minimal investment in our countries future and for a product that is
certain to be dropped at random over some profit-driven or political whim
of a foreign organisation!

Regards from
Tom :)

On 27 March 2018 at 00:09, toki <> wrote:

On 03/26/2018 07:56 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:

 I'm pretty sure "mainstream support" ended a few years ago.  Quite
what that means seems very unclear.

It isn't that hard.

If what I was told was true, in 2010, Microsoft was still providing Tier
3 support to a customer that used MS Dos 5.0, and a different customer
that used Win95. (I suspect that in both cases, the support was a
license fee for source code, and the paying customer did the bug fixes,
etc. themselves.)

As such, the precise meaning can change, depending upon circumstances.

MAYBE unless they are a large multinational corporation or government

a) If you hadn't put the qualifier "government" in, I could have pointed
you at one organization that has that. However, I suspect that Microsoft
provides that support, more because to not do so will result in an
unwinnable lawsuit, than because they want to.

b) Microsoft has several tiers of support. In theory, individuals,
SOHOs, and SMBs can purchase support for any tier. However, simple
economics restricts Tier 3 to big governments and bigger corporations.
This is the level at which bug fixes, etc. are dealt with ASAP.

Long term support means just critical/security updates.

The big issue with "long term support", is how "long term" is defined.
Personally, I wouldn't call 18 months "long term", but marketing people
apparently think so.


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