Re: [libreoffice-users] Making horizontal lines in Writer

Thanks for all of the ideas Tom. Inline replies below.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi :)
> Pdf is the best route imo.  Note that the advantage LIbreOffice offers
> here is that it makes uncompressed Pdfs fairly easily, or at least with
> loss-less compression instead of making things a bit fuzzy.

​Yes, I created a test pdf from one of my lessons and sent that to her, and
she said that the lines came out as I had described over the phone. So I
think that's the route I'm going to use. I have no idea what she's reading
the pdf with, but probably Adobe Reader. ​



> You'll still probably need to use boring and over-used fonts such as Times
> New Roman, Arial or for that wacky, friendly look the infamous Comic Sans
> to fit in with whatever he/she is likely to have on his/her machine.
> Students love dull boring old stuff don't they?
>
> There is another neat trick if you are going to give him/her the files on
> a usb-stick and be able to click a couple of things yourself.  The Portable
> Apps initiative
> http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable/
> It makes the programs/apps available without having to install them onto
> the Windows machine.  Then when you unplug the usb-stick the program
> becomes unavailable again.

​That is definately a possibility. I used to use the PortableApps a lot
when I was MS bound at work. Now I have more liberality to use Linux, so I
have to learn how to interface with the MS world from the outside. ​



> It might be worth testing this before relying on it.  I'd want the Pdf on
> the same Usb-stick and easy to quickly email in case her machine is tooo
> locked down.
>
> I'm not sure how to help with the fonts but maybe it's something to think
> about next time.
>
>
> Why does she/he "have to" read them in MS Office anyway?  I'd bet she
> doesn't use MS Office to read Pdfs.  At some point people decided it was ok
> to have 2 pieces of software to read documents.  Why not a third?  It is
> possible for her to have both MS Office for her own use and LibreOffice to
> handle documents from people who don't want to pay exorbitant fees for
> malware infested vendor lock-ins.  Do all the students also 'have to' buy
> into MS Office because the staff are given it for free?
>
> Is it morally right for teachers to force their students to buy into
> something in order to help ensure the staff get it for free?  (Sorry, just
> trying to give you arguments but they are unlikely to win you any fans!)
> Good luck and regards from
> Tom :)

​Thanks.​



> On 24 September 2014 00:12, "J. Van Brimmer" <jerry.vb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Cley,
> >
> > I didn't think about the pdf route. That just may well work. I did try
> > sending an .odt to the secretary, same peoblem. When she opened it, some
> > of
> > the lines were missing. I'll try pdfs next.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Cley Faye <cleyfaye@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know how well it transition to .doc files, but my approach to
> > make
> > > answer lines is the following:
> > > - create a new paragraph style (let's call it "Answer Zone")
> > > - change the style spacing so that there is no extra space before/after
> > the
> > > paragraph
> > > - change the style border to be a single line at the bottom, and disable
> > > the checkbox that merge the borders between paragraphs
> > >
> > > ...after typing this, I just checked, and that's roughly what the
> > "---\r"
> > > route is doing. Damn. The issues seems to be that the "Merge with next
> > > paragraph" option either doesn't exist in .doc format, or isn't carried
> > > over correctly. And no more luck with docx.
> > >
> > > Some sort of solution for your issue could be to just send the odt
> > (recent
> > > version of MS Office can read them, YMMV), or directly send the PDF,
> > which
> > > is clearly the best option if the recipient of your document will not
> > have
> > > to modify it, only to view/print it.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cley Faye
> > > http://cleyfaye.net
> > >
> > > 2014-09-24 0:27 GMT+02:00 "J. Van Brimmer" <jerry.vb@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > I'm using 4.3.1.2 on Xubuntu Linux.
> > > >
> > > > I am creating some lesson handouts for a class I'm going to be
> > teaching.
> > > I
> > > > have to email them to our secretary, who has to read them in MS Office
> > > for
> > > > printing.
> > > > ​
> > > > The ​documents are formatted in landscape mode.
> > > >
> > > > In the document I enter a short text line, press Enter, then I type in
> > > > three dashes, press Enter, and waula, I have a horizontal line for the
> > > > students to  write their answers on.
> > > > ​Sometimes I continue pressing Enter to automatically create as many
> > > lines
> > > > as I need.
> > > > ​
> > > > This works fine as ling as I stay in .odt format. But if I save the
> > > > document in .doc format, and then open the .doc file in LibreOffice,
> > some
> > > > of the horizontal lines are missing. I have tried everything I can
> > think
> > > > of, but I can't get all of the lines to "stick" from .odt to .doc
> > format.
> > > > I have read the "Help" page here:
> > > > https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Drawing_Lines_in_Text
> > > > ​ .
> > > > But ​those tips don't work either.
> > > >
> > > > ​I am being forced to work in Win​broke using BS Word. Help!
> > > >
> > > >
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