Re: [libreoffice-users] crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

Progress report:

I've installed Version: 4.2.3.3, Build ID: 
882f8a0a489bc99a9e60c7905a60226254cb6ff0

I've had 5 "vector::_M_range_check" crashes in a row, in one of my large 
multi-sheet spreadsheet documents. What I'm trying to do that's causing 
the crashes is delete about 10 rows in a sheet. Nothing more.

This error is the phantom that's been haunting me for weeks. Usually, if 
I never do two significant things to a sheet without saving between 
them, I can avoid the crash. When that doesn't work, I try deleting 
columns and replacing them with columns from other sheets. Somehow, this 
will ultimately get me to a point the crashes stop...until the next day, 
when it starts all over again.

I'm still working with the sheet to try to move it along. I have little 
choice. The sheet is that important.

t.

On 05/01/2014 08:45 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Magic! :)  I hope it does help!  Let us know how it goes
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> On 1 May 2014 15:41, Tom Cloyd <tomcloydmsma@gmail.com 
> <mailto:tomcloydmsma@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Tom -
>
>     Thank you! Such useful info. Going into my LO notes for sure. All
>     of it. It's very like to help me in a variety of ways.
>
>     I appreciate much your taking the time to write such a lengthy and
>     detailed response.
>
>     Tom C.
>
>
>     On 05/01/2014 04:33 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>
>         Hi :)
>         +1
>         To clarify:  the higher that 3rd digit the more stable the
>         release is (that
>         is a bit of a simplification but it kinda works well).
>
>         So if stability is the main issue then the 4.1.6 is better
>         than the 4.2.1.
>           The 1st and 2nd digits say more about features and advances in
>         compatibility with MSO formats but "you can't make an omelet
>         without
>         breaking eggs" and the new features can sometimes cause
>         unexpected problems
>         on some real-world machines.  Testing can only go so far.  So
>         i tend to try
>         to get the highest 1st and 2nd digits for myself but give all
>         my colleagues
>         the highest 3rd digit i can reasonably manage (without
>         breaking a sweat).
>
>
>         Usual causes of crashing is an unstable version of Java.  All
>         versions
>         become unstable quite quickly, often even before release.  If
>         you have to
>         use Java try to keep updating it at least monthly.  Mostly we
>         steer well
>         away from using Java if at all possible.  It is now highly
>         unlikely that
>         you'll ever need Java active in LibreOffice so switch it off in LO
>         Tools - Options - Advanced/Java
>         and untick the box that asks if you want to use java.  If LO
>         grumbles at
>         some point then you can always switch it on for that task and
>         hopefully
>         switch off again afterwards.  The only exception is if you are
>         using
>         Accessibility tools such as screen-readers or if you are using
>         Base with
>         the internal back-end.
>
>         Another cause is low settings in "Memory"
>         Tools - Options - Memory
>         and just ramp everything right up.  The defaults are set for
>         machines with
>         low Ram.
>
>         Hopefully that helps a bit?  i thought we had already gone
>         through these
>         options so if it's still happening there is probably some
>         other issue.  I'm
>         just hoping that some of the above was unclear before.
>         Regards form
>         Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>         On 1 May 2014 11:00, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@libertytrek.org
>         <mailto:tanstaafl@libertytrek.org>> wrote:
>
>             On 4/29/2014 6:21 PM, Tom Cloyd <tomcloydmsma@gmail.com
>             <mailto:tomcloydmsma@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Everyday, I organize my life around two large LO
>                 spreadsheets. I'm
>                 running ver. 4.2.1.1.
>
>                 Since the last major update (ver. 4.2.1?), my day
>                 begins with a serious
>                 of crashes - only after I save both sheets
>                 (separately, of course) 6-12
>                 times, each time after some small operation, do they
>                 get stable.
>                 Usually. Mostly. Except when they aren't.
>
>                 I'm doing wild, exotic things like moving rows around,
>                 and inserting
>                 rows, or filling in columns with data copied from
>                 other columns.
>
>                 I'm SO ready for the next version.
>
>                 Anyone have a clue when it's due to land?
>
>             4.2.3 is the current release version.
>
>             Why do you think that 4.2.1 is current?
>
>             4.2.4 will be released very soon though.
>
>             Or you could always roll back to 4.1.6 (prior stable branch).
>
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Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State)
Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332
* << tc@tomcloyd.com >> (email) << TomCloyd.com >> (website)
* Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues)
* Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community
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