Re: [libreoffice-users] brief mention of LO in an article about Office 365 vs. Google Apps

I sure did not like the "bloated" idea that looks to be read or implied 
to LibreOffice.  "Bloated", to me means it takes up a proportionally 
large amount of drive space.  1 to 2 GBs worth at least.  Also "bloated" 
means that it is "bloated" with too many options that are not used by 
most of its market.

I do not think LO will ever be "bloated" in either definition. Yes, our 
developers will increase the "internal" options and others will develop 
options that are added on through the Extension Manager.  I think the 
idea of an extension-based add on of options is a great idea.  That way 
the users can pick and choose which ones are wanted and not be told you 
are required to have all these options that you will never use.

I do not think LO will ever be a "one package of every user" type of 
office suite that MSO tries to be.  Yes, LO can do a lot of things that 
MSO can do, but do we really want to do everything they can do?  NO, 
since that would be a waste of our developers' effort.  Plus it would 
make improving LO a much more difficult task.  MSO takes 1 to 3 years to 
come out with their next version.  Mostly that is due to having to fix 
all the issues that a "bloated" package has every time you try to 
"improve" it.  MSO 2010 and its "ribbon" menu system hampered my efforts 
to make a document quickly on a system that needed some documents made 
up and displayed.  I did not have access to my laptop at that time.

So, I agree the writer might not have known much about LO except it is a 
competitor to MSO.  At least having "competitor" status is a good thing, 
but the idea that LO is as "Bloated" as MSO is not.


On 03/12/2014 01:18 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
> I am not sure the writer knows what they are talking about. One can 
> describe office suites, whether local or cloud, as light, medium, and 
> heavy. The light ones (Abiword) try to cover the major functionality 
> required by users for modest documents but deliberately omit features 
> many features. Light applications are often best suited for home and 
> very small office users. Medium have more features but try to avoid 
> having the very rare features that only a very few users will ever 
> need or use. I think LO and AOO strive to be here, relatively feature 
> rich without the many of the very rarely used features. Medium 
> applications try to hit the sweet of excellent performance with a 
> fairly rich feature set. Medium applications can be used by a large 
> majority of users. Heavy applications have all the features included 
> even if this sometimes hurts overall usability and performance. MS 
> Office is best known heavy office suite.
>
> Also, some zdnet.com writers tend to shill for MS and will not admit 
> that users are in the best position to judge their needs and often a 
> non-MS solution is the overall best solution.
>
> Jay
> On 03/12/2014 09:34 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
> > http://www.zdnet.com/is-office-365-worth-spending-3x-more-than-on-google-apps-7000027225/ 
> >
> >
> > Is Office 365 worth spending 3x more than on Google Apps?
> >
> > Summary: Office 365 is three times the cost of Google Apps. It's 
> > worth it -- but probably not for the reason you expect...
> >
> > By Matt Baxter-Reynolds
> >
> > :quote:
> >
> > Continuum
> >
> > Office's competition has always been products that have tried to 
> > emulate Office's enormous bulk -- think LibreOffice in particular. 
> > Google Docs doesn't try to do that at all. It's a very minimal product.
> >
> > We know that Office is enormous. There is nothing that the entire 
> > product suite can't do. People often complain about it's labyrinthine 
> > complexity. Another way to look at that is that Microsoft has 
> > actually done a skilled job in masking that complexity. There's 
> > enough in there to drive even the most ardent power user crazy.
> >
> > :unquote:
> >
> > Here is my question - are we trying to emulate MSO's "enormous bulk" 
> > [of options]?  I hope it is not though of as the bulk of hard drive 
> > space needed to install MSO vs. LO.
> >
> > I know that LO will not spend money on the server costs for a "cloud" 
> > based version of LO hosted by LO, but it was an interesting read that 
> > may be reflected into the development of LO for Android devices.


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