Re: [libreoffice-users] brief mention of LO in an article about Office 365 vs. Google Apps

On 2014-03-13 04:56, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
> That is why I mentioned the article.  I do not like to read anything 
> about LO that seems to state it is a "bloated" package. Yes, we will 
> do a large number of options that MSO does, but we are not dipping 
> into the options that 95% to 99% of the users of MSO never use or even 
> know about.  That is the bloat.  One "early" upgrade of MSO advertised 
> "over 1,000" new options added.  How many of those options were really 
> needed/wanted/used by the targeted market?  That is where the bloat 
> comes from.
>
> I am glad we are not being "pushed" into running a cloud based version 
> of LO.  Be nice to have one available for business users to host for 
> their workers, but I for one do not want to see the bill for server 
> resources if TDF placed one online.  I will wait for the LO for 
> Android for the tablet and use thumb-drives and other physical media 
> for the laptop work off my home/office wifi network.
Also to remember is that 75% of the world population have no internet 
access, so cloud base apps are no use. Many connected areas also do not 
have enough "connection" for cloud based apps.
To consider, is that 81% of internet access in China is via mobile 
devices and it could be expected that when the 75% above obtain internet 
access it will be predominantly by mobile device and with less than 
adequate cloud capabilities.
http://thenextweb.com/asia/2014/01/16/chinas-internet-population-numbered-618m-end-2013-81-connecting-via-mobile/#!zsn3K
Steve
> On 03/12/2014 10:48 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > I doubt it.  I think LO aims to stay reasonably streamlined.  On the
> > other hand if you need seriously tiny then go with AbiWord&Gnumeric.
> > If you want a Cloud-based solution then Google-docs.
> >
> > MS Office tries to be all things and do everything all in 'one'
> > program.  You might have to add extra programs that weren't included
> > in the bundle or shop around for a different bundle and there is often
> > confusion about prices and which programs are or aren't bundled.
> > However, even after adding different programs into the mix and all
> > that it is still seen as a single solution that just does everything.
> >
> > The LibreOffice way is to engage with the wider OpenSource ethos to
> > have much smaller programs that each fit their own niche well and
> > co-operate well with each other.  That way you can choose to use
> > unusual combinations for unusual use-cases or just choose the standard
> > combinations that most people go with.
> >
> > So for us it makes a lot of sense to use Libreoffice on most machines
> > and AbiWord&Gunmeric on extremely low spec ones and maybe using
> > google-docs when we are on the move.  Most of us probably use
> > Thunderbird but some probably use Evolution and i know some use Claws
> > and Zimbra.  However none of us need to know what anyone else is using
> > as they all use the same standards so files and such can be shared
> > between them all fairly seemlessly.
> >
> > Why have 1 big bloated sluggish mess rather than fast, elegant and
> > secure programs??
> > Regards from
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12 March 2014 13:34, Kracked_P_P---webmaster
> > <webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:
> > > http://www.zdnet.com/is-office-365-worth-spending-3x-more-than-on-google-apps-7000027225/ 
> > >
> > >
> > > Is Office 365 worth spending 3x more than on Google Apps?
> > >
> > > Summary: Office 365 is three times the cost of Google Apps. It's 
> > > worth it --
> > > but probably not for the reason you expect...
> > >
> > > By Matt Baxter-Reynolds
> > >
> > > :quote:
> > >
> > > Continuum
> > >
> > > Office's competition has always been products that have tried to 
> > > emulate
> > > Office's enormous bulk -- think LibreOffice in particular. Google Docs
> > > doesn't try to do that at all. It's a very minimal product.
> > >
> > > We know that Office is enormous. There is nothing that the entire 
> > > product
> > > suite can't do. People often complain about it's labyrinthine 
> > > complexity.
> > > Another way to look at that is that Microsoft has actually done a 
> > > skilled
> > > job in masking that complexity. There's enough in there to drive 
> > > even the
> > > most ardent power user crazy.
> > >
> > > :unquote:
> > >
> > > Here is my question - are we trying to emulate MSO's "enormous bulk" 
> > > [of
> > > options]?  I hope it is not though of as the bulk of hard drive 
> > > space needed
> > > to install MSO vs. LO.
> > >
> > > I know that LO will not spend money on the server costs for a 
> > > "cloud" based
> > > version of LO hosted by LO, but it was an interesting read that may be
> > > reflected into the development of LO for Android devices.
> > >
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