Re: [libreoffice-users] Similar Problem?

Having said all that. It would appear that I've never had  auto backup switched on.

Having switched it on I now see backups and autobackups for writer and calc documents. Nothing at 
all for base documents.

Alex



On Wednesday 15 Jan 2014 14:35:33 Alex McMurchy wrote:
> I used to have that problem. It seems to have stopped around about 16th July 2013. Not sure why!
>
> Either - 
>
> I upgraded LibreOffice which stopped the feature
> or I did something else which I can't remember!
>
> I'm currently on 4.1.4.2.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday 15 Jan 2014 07:38:25 Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > Errr, is it possible to switch the auto-save and auto-backups off for
> > a while and see if that improves things?  The thing i find difficult
> > about doing that is remembering to save properly and frequently
> > enough.  With Base i think it's also important to close properly.
> >
> > There is some documentation and a handbook at
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
> > and the Faq at
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq
> > might be able to help too but the best place seems to be this mailing
> > list or the Base forums at Apache OpenOffice.
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> > On 15 January 2014 07:30, Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi :)
> > > Errr, are you using the internal back-end?  You haven't connected to
> > > an external back-end have you?  You should really be keeping your data
> > > in an external back-end instead of having the whole database as a
> > > single file.
> > >
> > > Being able to do that is one of the main things that makes Base so
> > > much more powerful than Access.  The internal back-end got tacked on
> > > to make Base more familiar to people who have picked up bad habits by
> > > using Access.  It seems to be a bit broken though.  Annoyingly the
> > > Marketing Mailing List and all our flyers, posters and leaflets (at
> > > least all the ones that mention Base at all) keep pushing people into
> > > using the internal back-end despite the fact that users have even
> > > experienced data-loss by doing so.  I'm tempted to ask you to take
> > > this problem to the marketing list to get them to solve it but the
> > > experts in Base are mostly on this list and will hopefully be able to
> > > help with this issue.
> > >
> > > It should be possible to export your existing tables into an external
> > > back-end and this mailing list (note, not the marketing list) might be
> > > able to help you with that.
> > >
> > > The next smart thing about Base is that forms and reports can be, and
> > > are best made in Writer or/and (i think) Calc.  So normal users who
> > > are clueless about databases can read the data in a familiar setting
> > > and use familiar tools to format and edit things around the
> > > data-fields.  The forms and reports inside Base seem to be for
> > > data-entry and people who have some clue about databases.
> > >
> > > However i have never quite got around to getting to grips with all
> > > this.  So hopefully some of the experts might wade in and set me
> > > straight (again)
> > > Regards from
> > > Tom :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 15 January 2014 05:57, Vince Radice <vhradice@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > I am running Fedora FC19-64 bit. Libreoffice Version: 4.1.4.2
> > > > Build ID: 4.1.4.2-2.fc19
> > > >
> > > > Here are some lines of a ls -la command
> > > >
> > > > -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 13:10 GRNew odb_0.odb
> > > > -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1000.odb
> > > > -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1001.odb
> > > > -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1002.odb
> > > > -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1003.odb
> > > > -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1004.odb
> > > > -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1005.odb
> > > > -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1006.odb
> > > > -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1007.odb
> > > > -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1008.odb
> > > > -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1009.odb
> > > > -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 13:26 GRNew odb_100.odb
> > > > -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1010.odb
> > > >
> > > > My database name is GRNew,odb.
> > > > I was looking at some of the recent messages that were talking about LO
> > > > looping saving backups of untitled documents.  It mentioned Calc and Write
> > > > as being involved.  Could this be related to my problem?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Vince Radice
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 01/14/2014 12:44 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > > > > Hi :)
> > > > > On Ubuntu 12.04 i have no files in there.  Do the file-names start
> > > > > with a ~ or with "lock"?  In either of those cases i think you can
> > > > > delete the files without worry but it might be worth testing that for
> > > > > 1 or 2 files.
> > > > >
> > > > > Going off on a tangent i do have a non-LibreOffice folder with a load
> > > > > of crash reports from when i don't close Xbmc properly and i routinely
> > > > > delete all of them from time-to-time.  I'm not sure if this is similar
> > > > > or not.
> > > > > Regards from
> > > > > Tom :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 14 January 2014 04:12, Vince Radice <vhradice@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I am seeing something and I don't know if it is a problem or something I
> > > > > > have to live with.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the ~/.config/libreoffice/4/user/backup  directory, I have 3,000+
> > > > > > files
> > > > > > with 0 bytes.  I assume that this means the files are empty. There are
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > files there which are not empty.  The non-empty ones appear to be backups
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > files I have worked on.  The empty files all appear to be attempts to
> > > > > > backup
> > > > > > a Base database that I have created using the built in hsql engine.  The
> > > > > > file is stored on my computer. The time stamps on the files are unusual.
> > > > > > There are 6 files with a time stamp of 15:58, 6 with 15:59, 6 with 16:00
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > the pattern continues for the other 3,500 empty files.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does any one else have the same situation?  I have the save/backup time
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > the general options set to 15 minutes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a listing of all of the files if anyone wants to see it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > Vince Radice
> > > > > >
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