Re: [libreoffice-users] Similar Problem?

Hi :)
Errr, are you using the internal back-end?  You haven't connected to
an external back-end have you?  You should really be keeping your data
in an external back-end instead of having the whole database as a
single file.

Being able to do that is one of the main things that makes Base so
much more powerful than Access.  The internal back-end got tacked on
to make Base more familiar to people who have picked up bad habits by
using Access.  It seems to be a bit broken though.  Annoyingly the
Marketing Mailing List and all our flyers, posters and leaflets (at
least all the ones that mention Base at all) keep pushing people into
using the internal back-end despite the fact that users have even
experienced data-loss by doing so.  I'm tempted to ask you to take
this problem to the marketing list to get them to solve it but the
experts in Base are mostly on this list and will hopefully be able to
help with this issue.

It should be possible to export your existing tables into an external
back-end and this mailing list (note, not the marketing list) might be
able to help you with that.

The next smart thing about Base is that forms and reports can be, and
are best made in Writer or/and (i think) Calc.  So normal users who
are clueless about databases can read the data in a familiar setting
and use familiar tools to format and edit things around the
data-fields.  The forms and reports inside Base seem to be for
data-entry and people who have some clue about databases.

However i have never quite got around to getting to grips with all
this.  So hopefully some of the experts might wade in and set me
straight (again)
Regards from
Tom :)




On 15 January 2014 05:57, Vince Radice <vhradice@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> I am running Fedora FC19-64 bit. Libreoffice Version: 4.1.4.2
> Build ID: 4.1.4.2-2.fc19
>
> Here are some lines of a ls -la command
>
> -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 13:10 GRNew odb_0.odb
> -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1000.odb
> -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1001.odb
> -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1002.odb
> -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1003.odb
> -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1004.odb
> -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:58 GRNew odb_1005.odb
> -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1006.odb
> -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1007.odb
> -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1008.odb
> -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1009.odb
> -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 13:26 GRNew odb_100.odb
> -rw-------.  1 vince root       0 Dec 13 15:59 GRNew odb_1010.odb
>
> My database name is GRNew,odb.
> I was looking at some of the recent messages that were talking about LO
> looping saving backups of untitled documents.  It mentioned Calc and Write
> as being involved.  Could this be related to my problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Vince Radice
>
>
> On 01/14/2014 12:44 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > On Ubuntu 12.04 i have no files in there.  Do the file-names start
> > with a ~ or with "lock"?  In either of those cases i think you can
> > delete the files without worry but it might be worth testing that for
> > 1 or 2 files.
> >
> > Going off on a tangent i do have a non-LibreOffice folder with a load
> > of crash reports from when i don't close Xbmc properly and i routinely
> > delete all of them from time-to-time.  I'm not sure if this is similar
> > or not.
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> > On 14 January 2014 04:12, Vince Radice <vhradice@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> > > I am seeing something and I don't know if it is a problem or something I
> > > have to live with.
> > >
> > > In the ~/.config/libreoffice/4/user/backup  directory, I have 3,000+
> > > files
> > > with 0 bytes.  I assume that this means the files are empty. There are
> > > other
> > > files there which are not empty.  The non-empty ones appear to be backups
> > > of
> > > files I have worked on.  The empty files all appear to be attempts to
> > > backup
> > > a Base database that I have created using the built in hsql engine.  The
> > > file is stored on my computer. The time stamps on the files are unusual.
> > > There are 6 files with a time stamp of 15:58, 6 with 15:59, 6 with 16:00
> > > and
> > > the pattern continues for the other 3,500 empty files.
> > >
> > > Does any one else have the same situation?  I have the save/backup time
> > > in
> > > the general options set to 15 minutes.
> > >
> > > I have a listing of all of the files if anyone wants to see it.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Vince Radice
> > >
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