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On 9/6/13 6:56 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
On 09/06/2013 05:20 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/5/13 9:23 AM, T. R. Valentine wrote:
As a follow-up to our earlier discussion of one versus two spaces
following a full point/full stop/period, I offer the following passage
from /About Face: Reviving the Rules of Typography/ by David Jury
(typos mine):


<sigh>  With the different ways people reply to this group, this
discussion is all over the place when using gmane and a newsreader.   :-(

I think I've got all of these messages read, and it seems to me
everyone has overlooked one thing, the font itself.  What did the
designer do with the individual characters and punctuation marks and
whatever else may be in the font regarding white space in the glyph

It seems logical to me that's going to make a difference in whether
the spacing after a period, for example, should be 1, 1.5, or 2
spaces.  And maybe, you'll just have to do some manual kerning.

Or...  Am I missing something?


I don't think you're missing anything, but most of us aren't using LO to
prepare the *final* version of a document for  professional publication
(i.e., books, magazines, etc.). I would truly hope that a publishing
house would do more than just take a word processing document and print
it out in book format. (In fact, many professional writers use nothing
more than Notepad, saying their publishers strip all user-inserted
formatting anyway). So, if there's any manual kerning to be done, I
would expect that to be done on a level far above LO.

When I argue for one space instead of two, I'm thinking in terms of
business letters, memos, legal briefs (I'm a lawyer) or scholastic
papers (I also teach at our local university). These are the types of
documents I prepare with LO, and when preparing them, I want to follow
professional typographic standards as much as I can. Ergo, one space.
But, manual kerning goes beyond what I think should be expected of
anyone on this level of document preparation.


I understand wanting to follow "best shop practices" for printing. Which is why I'm just starting out on giving LyX a run for some things I want to write.

But, even being that anal (LOL), it doesn't answer my questions about the design of the font itself, and the effect of the design, regardless of who does the final setup of the document.

I kinda stayed out of the one space or two discussion, but if you look at this post, which has both your style (one space) and mine (two spaces), when it's a monospace font as I see this post I find the single space more difficult to read. Not terribly, but harder. :-) If if the font is proportional, I generally stumble at the beginning when reading a document of some kind that has single spaces at the end of the sentence until the brain adjusts. Too often, my brain interprets a single spacing at the end of a sentence as just one long, very long, run on sentence. :-)

When I get the time, and have a reason to use LO again, I'm going to go into the autocorrect function and see if I can follow my own suggestion in another thread about substitution of a different space when the right punctuation/space combinations are typed, following my ingrained habits. LOL

Kind of an off topic questions, but don't a lot of legal papers use full justification?


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