RE: [libreoffice-users] Can't find setting

On Fri, 16 Aug 2013, Bruce Carlson wrote:

> An interesting observation Virgil.
>
> When I went to school, mind you it was several lifetimes ago and in the backwoods of the Australian 
> outback so it may not be too relevant to anywhere else on the planet but, I was told to always 
> leave a double space at the end of every sentence. That was with hand writing, before typewriters 
> were invented, at least there were none within several hundred miles of where I grew up.
> These days with modern word processors I just don't bother to even try and insert two spaces at the 
> end of sentences but I suppose I should, it certainly looks nicer and may even be proper.
> It would be nice if modern word processors at least provided the option of a setting to do this 
> automatically. Perhaps it should be the default setting.
>
> (please note no double spaces used in this text)
>
> Cheers all,
>
> Bruce Carlson

this whole discussion rather puzzles me. I'm out of it because I've 
never heard of a rule requiring double spaces between sentences (born 
and raised in the US).

esthetically double space insertion annoys me when I have to edit 
texts but otherwise I don't notice so double spaces neither facilitate 
nor inhibit reading as far as I am concerned.

but not to just prattle on about myself, I have pulled three texts 
from a shelf, two are Oxford University and one is Johns Hopkins 
University. no double spaces that I can discern. oh, here's one from 
MIT Press; no double spaces. these are somewhat recent; here's an 
older volume from Stanford University (1992), again, no double 
spacing.

I gather from Brian Barker's (and others') posts that this has 
something to do with typewriters - is this a rule one learns by taking 
typewriter classes? (learned on a typewriter but can't remember if I 
double-spaced or not.) is it a rule applied to some special area of 
literature or publication?

F.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Virgil Arrington [mailto:cuyfalls@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013 10:29 AM
> To: James Knott; LibreOffice
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't find setting
>
> I got my information from Robert Bringhurst's book "The Elements of 
> Typographic Style."
>
> I have noticed that older books from the 19th century had wider spacing after sentence ending 
> punctuation. Newer books, say from the mid 20th century on, seem to have narrower spacing between 
> sentences.
>
> Virgil
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Knott
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:22 AM
> To: LibreOffice
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't find setting
>
> Virgil Arrington wrote:
> > The typographic standard is to only use one space between sentences
> > with proportionally spaced fonts.
>
> In the old hand set type (which I have worked with) there were different width spaces (en & em 
> quads), depending on where they were used.
> Typically, an en quad was used between words and an em quad between sentences.  The names refer to 
> the width of upper case N and M characters.  So, the space between words was as wide as an N and 
> between sentences, an M.  There were also wider ones, such as double M and triple M.  Typesetting 
> machines, such as the Linotype also had provision for different width spaces.
>
>
>
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