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Well, I have had a number of system in where I could not install or run anti-virus the installed. I wonder about the portable versions of anti-virus would work? What I usually do it remove the drive and plus it into a USB adapter and use my most secured Windows PC and scan that drive. I use Comodo [like the dragon] since it is free and it has a full Internet Security suite available for the free download. I add a bunch of other security packages to that and scan the "heck" out of the drive to clean any "nasties" that might be lurking.

So with all that security running on my Win7 laptops [dual boot with Ubuntu 12.04LTS] they tend to run slower than other Windows systems others may have, but slower and safer is better than getting it infected.

So, between the Win7 and Ubuntu installs, Ubuntu 64-bit runs the fastest for using LO. Less need of all those security packages running in the background is one reason. I do do a anti-virus scan nightly on my Ubuntu desktop though, just to make sure my downloaded files are clean so I will not pass on infected files to others.

I like the fact than AVG has a free Android version and it scans any files that are downloaded and/or installed on my NOOK tablet. The same goes with Comodo on my Win7 systems.

So, LO is a fast loading package, even with security packages running in the background, no matter which ones you choose for your Windows systems. LO runs faster on Linux, since there are less a need for all of those security packages running in the background. PLUS, unlike Windows, Linux has both a 32-bit and a 64-bit install so it matched your system a bit better. Of course one day we may have other installs specific to ARM, AMD, Intel, and other CPU types so it is tweaked for the processors. Raspberry Pi has "ported" LO to their version of Debian to run more efficiently on that processor and OS that has been tweaked to run the RPi. I wonder how many "ported tweaks" have been made for specific systems out there world wide.

So LO is fast loading to the point you are able to use it. The last MSO I used loaded up to the page view window but took several minutes till you were able to edit your document. I assume MS has sped that up a bit, but I have not bough any MSO since 2003 and have not tested MSO 2010 or 2013 [yet]. Did use the trial 2007 a few times, though, but do not remember it being much better than 2003.

On 08/06/2013 10:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Good point.  I only had the anti-malware stuff running.  None of the usual other windows open.

On Windows machines i typically have 2 running.
1.  Microsoft Security Essentials, the one that kinda forces it's way onto your system through 
automatic updates and stuff even if you don't want it
2.  A free one.  Usually AVG in the company where i kinda work.  In a different place i might be 
using a different one but AVG seems reasonably ok to me.

On machines that are desperately slow running like that i switch off one or the other.  Usually the 
MS one because i still don't completely trust it yet.

The number 1 job of any malware has to be to either knock-out the anti-malware stuff or find a way 
to permanently bypass it without raising any alarms.  So anti-malware stuff needs to think in a 
very different way from whatever in-built security might be around.  I don't have any confidence in 
MS being able to do that.  I think a 3rd party program is more likely to have different structures. 
 On the other hand MS might have more of an idea where all their most well-known flaws are and 
might be able to structure their one to deal with likely threats.  So, who knows which is going to 
be best in the next years or so.

Regards from
Tom :)

From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster <>
Sent: Tuesday, 6 August 2013, 14:56
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] start up speed

Actually my 3 second test, as stated in a past post, was with 3
utilities open on the screen and 2 or 3 Firefox browser windows open.
The utilities are always loaded at boot by my choice.  I have several FF
windows open with many tabs involved.  That is part of my "normal"
desktop use so I do not have to keep opening those pages every day or
so, and sometimes 3 or 6 times a day.

So with all that background packages, 3 seconds is not bad at all for a
Ubuntu 12.04LTS system.

Now on my Win7 laptops, well that is a different story, or similar
maybe.  I have a "ton" of security packages loaded up at boot time.
Also there are some utilities and other options loaded, like printer
management and other "stuff" like that.  So there is much more packages
running in the background with the Win7 laptops - both dual core but
different power - so click to splash to ready for work will take
longer.  To be honest, I am one of those people that believes that
Windows is a OS that can be easily infected with "nasties" so you must
have a lot of security utilities running to keep that from happening.  I
know some fools that do not even run anti-virus packages.  They say "why
bother", "I am safe", "I never go to sites that will infect me", or my
favorite "It will never happen to me.  You are just paranoid".

So, the key is that fact that LO is faster loading to a usable state,
now, than it was last year.  Also, it is not the speed to the splash
screen, but the speed of how long it will take till you are able to use
the package.

So if you run all of  the security package, like I do, on Windows it
will take longer to load up completely than with less security.  The
same with Linux and how much is running in the background.  The same
system, down to the exact same CPU, RAM, drive, OS, etc., will take
different times depending on what is installed and running.  Even a
fragmented drive will reduce the load and usage speeds.

So let us just say LO is loading faster than before and if a person
cannot wait for a few seconds for load time, then they will not be happy
with most packages out there that does similar "work".  Tablets can be
worse load times for their packages and I know of no one locally who has
complained about that.

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