Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Errores de certificado en la web

Hi :)
I think all of us here are on roughly the same side.  It's just a case of trying to work out what 
works when and what doesn't.  I haven't had a huge amount of success in converting MS users to LO.  

People seem to prefer sticking with broken mangled systems that don't do what they want rather than 
risk change.  The more broken the system the more they resist change.  Hence IE6 users being scared 
to death of trying anything else
Regards from 
Tom :)  





> ________________________________
> From: Paul <paulsteyn1@afrihost.co.za>
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 12:30
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Errores de certificado en la web
>
>
> Hi,
>
> > > Or you could just install FireFox and be done with the problems ..
> Well, as Tom says, I don't think it's usefull to just say "Get a new
> browser". Also, if the certificate is actually wrong, then it should be
> corrected, there really is no good reason it should be wrong, and
> switching browsers to not have to see the error is not a real solution.
> That said...
>
> > > > ...Or LO webmasters could just stop being idiots and not offer a
> > > > certificate for *.documentfoundation.org for libreoffice.org?
> That's maybe ever so slightly harsh. I just checked in Firefox,
> and the certificate for https://www.libreoffice.org has a certificate
> with a CN for www.libreoffice.org, so I'm not sure what the problem
> is... unless of course they've already fixed it.
>
> Just sayin'
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:05:07 +0100 (BST)
> Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi :)
> > I kinda agree but even though IE has recently become a minority share
> > of the web-browser market it is still used by quite a lot of people.
> > Usually those people are clueless about the alternatives and/or seem
> > to think they are using a superior product because they haven't
> > really tried anything else.  There's a LOT of them and we don't want
> > to cut them out of our potential market.  Telling them they have to
> > change web-browser just to use LO just gives them an extra reason not
> > to bother trying LO.  It just makes yet another artificial barrier
> > and increases the FUD.  
> >
> > Something that does seem to surprise people and encourage them to
> > install LO is that they can have both LO and MSO on their system.  A
> > dismaying number of people wont dare try LO because they think they
> > have to get rid of their MSO.  Similarly with web-browsers of course
> > but that is not our fight.  
> >
> > I'm credited with having written the 2nd paragraph below but it
> > really wasn't me 1.  Most of the web developers i know are ladies
> > 2.  If i had thought of it i would have written directly to the
> > Websites List to ask them if they could do it. probably the only
> > reason it might not have been done already is that they are a small
> > team and are still working on it.  However, i doubt that IE 9 needs a
> > different certificate from IE 8 or that certificates made for IE 8
> > are incompatible with IE 9.  It's always possible, of course,
> > especially if it could make things difficult for LO without affecting
> > too many other people.  
> >
> > Most of the people on tis list probably are already using Firefox,
> > Chrome, the Mac one, Opera or some other non-MS web-browser.  We need
> > to catch more people that haven't tried the others yet and maybe be
> > their gateway into OpenSource.  
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: P NIKOLIC <p.nikolic1@btinternet.com>
> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 7:29
> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Errores de certificado en la web
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:05:57 +0700
> > > "Urmas" <davian818@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Tom Davies":
> > > >
> > > > Note that IE is made by a 3rd party competitor that has good reason
> > > > to want to see LibreOffice (and all other OpenSource products)
> > > > fail. The more they can do to discredit LibreOffice the more
> > > > likely they are to sell more of their own product and make more
> > > > money.  So, if IE doesn't behave we might not be able to  do
> > > > anything about it.
> > > >
> > > > ...Or LO webmasters could just stop being idiots and not offer a
> > > > certificate for *.documentfoundation.org for libreoffice.org? 
> > >
> > > Or you could just install FireFox and be done with the problems ..
> > >
> > > Pete .
> > >
> > >
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