On 07/09/2013 07:27 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
Ferand wrote,
Virgil,
please stop this crap, LO and OO are the right tools to produce any
document any form any size, only the lack of knowledge is a barrier .
All professional tools to produce a book are XML based like LO and
OO, so start writing, use a simple style model , understood the
OutputLevels, understood picture resolutions and go. Afterwards
choose a tool make a tranformation to deliver the work to a printer
(PDF) or to a HTML 5/ Epub reader
Greetz
I noticed you didn't copy the list (a reply vs. reply all problem),
but I'll include the list on my reply as I think it might be helpful.
I'll grant that my suggesting other products on an LO users list may
not be the best form, but I do think it proper to point out LO's
limitations.
I fully agree that LO can produce any document any size. I fully agree
that lack of knowledge can be a barrier (to *any* product, be it LO or
LaTeX). But, I think your last line helps prove my point. You suggest
writing in LO, and then picking *another* tool to transform the final
product into PDF or Epub reader format. In so suggesting, you imply
that LO is *not* the right tool to perform those tasks.
I was trying to suggest tools that could perform the entire project,
from writing to publishing. The PDF output from LyX/LaTeX cannot be
touched by *anything* that I know of (at least in the FOSS world). For
example, LaTeX automatically, and by default, produces ligatures,
those "fi" and "fl" combinations that are often found lacking today in
"professionally" published books produced by word processors like LO
or Word. The Microtype package is an absolute must for any proper
output with justified margins, as it justifies an entire paragraph,
not just lines, making small adjustments, not only between words, but
*within* letters as well. LO's line by line justification looks
hideous in comparison (yes, I'm a little OCD about these things). And,
unless you use Linux Libertine as your typeface, you won't be able to
get such professional effects as old style numbering or true small caps.
There was a day when proper justification, ligatures, and professional
type effects were the expected norm in professionally designed books.
But, today, so many publishing houses are simply accepting the output
of word processors that it's becoming rare to find a properly designed
book. The lack of professional output in computer generated books was
the reason for the creation of TeX in the first place, some 35 years ago.
As far as the ebook format is concerned, nothing I've seen (again in
cost-effective tools) can match the output of Atlantis.
Virgil
I use LO to export my work to a PDF document that would work well on my
tablets. All I needed to do is format the page size to the proper one
that works best for tablet reading. I choose something along the page
size used for paper-back books. So I format the page to about 4 by 7
inches, with a small margin size. Then I export it to a PDF file. Of
course, if I want to create an ePub document format instead, for Kindle
or Nook, then I use an external package called "Calibre". I run it on a
Ubuntu/Linux system, but it come in Windows as well. [if I remember
correctly]
I also can save the book file via printing to CUPS-PDF and making sure
that my exact fonts are embedded properly. LO 4.1.x release notes shows
the "embed font" as a checkbox option.
There use to be an extension to export to ePub, but I do not know if it
is a good one or not.
SO, for my needs, I take free books that are in .txt or other formats
and use LO and its page formatting to convert them into a document or
book that works well for either my 7 inch or 9 inch tablets. For
Ligatures, well there are fonts that can be used that have those
glyph/letter combinations available. But I never saw the need to use
them. I just choose a font that works well for reading as an eBook or
printed one. There are fonts specifically created for their readability
for books. Most text books tend to use such fonts, as well as physical
books you buy.
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